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somone needs to replace gnome with windows 11 in that meme lmao.
It's hard to believe that KDE used to be considered one of the worst DEs around and now it's like Gnome is getting worse while KDE is getting better and better.
I mostly neutral on KDE vs Gnome thing, but after I got into theming my computer more I started to hate how Gnome handle its theming capability (confusing, messy, if I fix one thing something else break) while on KDE it has menus dedicated to colors scheme and general looks and feel
Both KDE and GNOME are good when you compare it to anything Windows have today.
I personally prefer KDE because of much customization support. I have it working with many keyboard shortcuts. I would miss the settings panel in hyperland.
GNOME is simple and elegant. Showing only what is needed. I can really understand people liking it. I like but just miss some small details like the keyboard shortcuts thing and focusing etc. How GNOME works is different mindset which O just have not learned. But GNOME looks good and have everything covered.
Xfc and lxd just need some more love from the developers. There are very few of them so I completely understand. Money issue.
I have never understood how there was any competition.
KDE has always been a better DE than anything on any platform, while gnome has been one of the worst and it just keeps going downhill.
I just realized that this desktop environment debate has slowed down a lot these last few years. I reckon it's about time we heat it back up. I'll get the popcorn!
Sounds like something a goddamn GNOME user would say π
KDE Plasma user I am
"i have painted myself as the chad and you as the virgin"
KDE is objectively the better DE from a technical standpoint (in my objective opinion) but sometimes GNOME just feels right in the moment. I have both installed and switch between them all the time
I liked gnome for its minimalistic UI. I then realized i3 does that better :D
Iβve found GNOME a pleasure to use. From my experience many folks that use Linux like to tinker with their computers. Even those new to Linux see a world of possibilities. GNOME doesnβt really embrace this tinkerer philosophy. They have an opinion on what a desktop manager should be and theyβre constantly working towards that vision.
When I introduce GNOME to new people I explain to them some the project goals, design elements and how itβs intended to be used. Then I tell them that GNOME is opinionated on how things should behave and look, and if you try to force GNOME to be something itβs not youβll probably end up using poorly documented or unsupported third-party extensions that break things. Generally the advice is, GNOME is great, but not for everyone, take the time to learn the GNOME way of doing things and if you donβt like it you're better off switching to another desktop environment than trying to change GNOME.
If it's not for everyone it should not be the default for many distributions, and other DEs should be recommended for beginners then.
I think the design philosophy of "you have to adapt to the software" is harmful. Software should adapt to you and disappear out of your way for common tasks. Something Gnome leadership fails to understand.
I ran gnome for about a decade. I really didn't like how a lot of bits and pieces of it worked so I went and found all of the plugins and religiously installed and updated them. Updates what happened, crab would break, I'd just have to deal.
At some point I tried KDE. And it literally did everything that I was doing to gnome through plugins out of the box.
I'm all about configurability but I'm also a pretty big fan of not having to fuck with it because it already does what I want out of the box.
You know that sounds an awful lot like how windows GUI behaves. I only recently started daily driving and the amount of gui elements you can change is mind blowing.
Windows 11 copied some KDE and Gnome features but they did a half ass job so the desktop is just broken.