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Hey folks!

I'm writing this because funding for the Lemmy project has dropped to critical levels, which could seriously impact its future development.

Thanks to the generous support of our lemm.ee community, our server infrastructure costs are covered, and we even have a few months of runway. I'm deeply grateful to everyone who has contributed - lemm.ee wouldn't exist without your help.

However, infrastructure alone isn’t enough. Our servers run Lemmy software, and without ongoing development, the platform cannot grow or even be maintained.

Lemmy is an open-source project with many contributors, but the vast majority of development work has been carried out by a small group of core maintainers. A few maintainers work full-time on the project, relying solely on donations and occasional grants to support themselves.

I've seen Lemmy development up close, and the maintainers have consistently gone above and beyond what I consider the standard for small open-source teams - they are constantly writing code, mentoring contributors, and keeping everything running. Their work is essential, and without continued support, it cannot be sustained.

If you value Lemmy, please consider supporting its maintainers directly. Every bit helps.

Please check out this post for more details about how to support the maintainers: https://lemm.ee/post/63034576

Thank you for reading, I hope you have a great weekend!

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

People are avoiding supporting lemmy monetarily due to the actions of the developers. We do not reward bad behaviors here. If lemmy development ends most of us will just move to kbin or piefed. This is a non-issue.

[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What actions of the developers are you talking about? I’m not trying to start a fight, I’m honestly out of the loop or whatever.

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankies, specifically

Authoritarian commies who have very different-from-reality opinions and word definitions

Oh, and transphobia

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

It's so funny to me when I express an even remotely moderate opinion and get called a right-winger. Lol, is lemmy really where right-wingers would go for online discourse?

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

tankie is just the new scary sounding word for communist derived from when the soviet union helped defeat a CIA backed color-revolution in Hungary

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

They're ~~^communists^~~ transphobic, class reductionists, support Russian invasion of Ukraine, support Uyghur genocide, support N. Korean dictators, worked hard to ensure Republicans won US elections, run an instance where they act like the authoritarian dictators they love and ban everyone who disagrees with them for being "liberals" 😱

FTFY

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[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I imagine the biggest point are the censorship, disinformation and tankie allegations. These are all documented in this post. Another point worth bringing up is that they are the admins of lemmy.ml, where most of the allegations happen. Lemmy.ml also has something of a tankie problem and one of the devs has said that the donations will also cover the cost of running the instance. So by donating to the devs you're also donating to an instance that possibly has no problem with censorship, disinformation and harboring tankies.

I would be willing to turn a blind eye if I could trust the devs to step away from lemmy.ml and focus solely on the development of Lemmy. But I don't trust the devs enough to actually do that so I personally won't be supporting Lemmy development until someone else becomes the maintainer of Lemmy.

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get off your high wooden horse and stomp your way back to reddit

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If not supporting genocide and authoritarianism is a high horse to you, you might want to invest in a step ladder.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You wouldn't know what a genocidal and authoritarian regime looked like even if you lived in it you reddit-brained hack

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Why are you in a lemm.ee specific meta post commenting though? Given the context this comment is so fucking funny.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go back to the hole that brought you to this world.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mean thing to say about your dad's bedroom

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

😵😵😵

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No u.

Oh wait, you can't, because even Reddit was smart enough to ban your asses half a decade ago.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

Because your reddit overlords think saying killing slavers is equal to installing a fascist regime in the United States

Sounds like a perfect "enlightened centrist" right-wing hell for you to jump back into

[–] determinism2@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

...and then they came here, why did you follow?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

No lie to detect so the crypto white supremacist pulls a Hillary Clinton "omg rude online" like there's no worse sin

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If not supporting genocide and authoritarianism

They support Israel?

[–] Allah@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

chill, there are arabs settlers in syria and iraq as well and pashtun settlers in afghanistan

you act like only theocratic zionists are settlers

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you act like only theocratic zionists are settlers

What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you lost?

[–] Allah@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, are you lost? OP said lemmy devs support genocide, & since the largest genocide today is perpetrated by Israel with US support, I was curious what OP meant

What the fuck does your comment has to do with lemmy or Israel? You seem confused

Amnesty International investigation concludes Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza

Arab settlements in Iran proliferated after the wars of conquest that destroyed the Sasanian empire.

The Sassanids ffs? You seem very confused about the relevancy of certain topics

[–] Allah@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

actually the largest apartheid state is afghanistan since it's gender apartheid

the longest and largest one is actually of minorities in muslim majority countries, but it is undeclared because of less coverage

sudan is currently the biggest and longest ethnic one

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Just like with Elon Musk, if someone wants people to support them monetarily, they shouldn't work hard to make themselves objectionable to wide swaths of the population they are trying to extract money from.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Those places suck and doesnt even have quality apps...

I dont think its a non-issue.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If those issues keep you off them, I'm good with that.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Yeah? I dont agree its transphobic to want women to still be competetive in the sports they are competing in.

I dont think we should have men identifying as women, coming in and beating women in women sports.

Thats not transphobic, and even if it was, its my opinion still, whatever you label it as.

[–] Neoinvin@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

showing an unbelievable lack of understanding and your whole ass on the internet huh? you're entitled to your opinion, like everyone else. but it sure is a stupid one.

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[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I had them blocked for misogyny, no wonder lol

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

This is bs, because you - and perhaps almost everyone else here - are supporting monetarily much worse people than the Lemmy developers.

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can support lemm.ee, then, instead?

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[–] person1@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (107 children)

Hmm glad I found this post and the comments. I recently came here from Reddit and joined some random communities just to have something in my feed. I was a bit shocked at hammer and sickle posted non-ironically in the meme group. Noting that communists weren't better than Nazis got me called an ungrateful shit for existing (which I apparently owe to Stalin) and banned. Moved to the second-biggest meme community the search found, where I'm not banned yet but being educated by Westerners that life in communist coutries was cheerful and Holodomor was an oopsie.

I'm glad to hear that this is not all that Lemmy stands for, but a bit disappointed learning that top developers are a part of the problem. I'm conflicted about donating to say the least, and it does not bode well for lemmy adoption in general. I'll stick around to see if other servers gain momentum, but I'll need to keep an eye open for other reddit alternatives I guess

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Most of Lemmy is fine - just avoid the tankie triad of lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, and hexbear and you should be good to go.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

And if you want instances where holocaust deniers turn their nose up and avoid, consider joining lemmygrad, lemmy.ml and hexbear!

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been around for long enough, time for me to donate.

Sure the two top admins have some shitty opinions, but they still are the main people who have put this software out. The two have been tirelessly working on it for years and years, and have made code that helps everyone, whether you share their opinions or not.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

You are paying for their programming, not their opinions. I dont think its a big deal if they have flaws or opinions i dont agree with.

So they dont like trans people. How does that even matter? Any trans person can use the platform anyway. The code doesnt have any opinions, its just code, and that code can be used to support trans people. The little opinions of the devs have no effect on this.

I cant believe how spoiled some people are here. We have a platform, free of ads, quality mobile apps, lots of instances, quite a lot of users. And its not owned by big tech. We own it.

Focus on the pluses here. I dont think another Lemmy will come along anytime soon. Alternatives are not even close in quality.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

This fuckin spam everywhere today holy shit

[–] ungsund@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I came here because reddit is turning into a corporate shithole. Users getting banned because of Luigi apologia and so on and so on. Was really relieved that we did in fact have a great, open source alternative to reddit.

My problem is the lead developers of this platform. They do not see the issues with their political bias being woven into their platform (and their transphobia), it will face the exact same shit thats happening to reddit today.

I can't pay money to people who deny the pain of trans people. I just can't. And if the lead developers of Lemmy run out of funds, well then I guess they'll have to just take a good look in the mirror if they don't see the reason why Lemmy failed. For now I'm gonna use lemmy if I can, but you can't expect people from reddit to come here and support you guys when their is really hateful shit being spewed by those people (tankies).

[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They do not see the issues with their political bias being woven into their platform

What the fuck are you talking about? Their ideology is not part of the project in the slightest. Which is why every other instance works perfectly even if they don't agree politically with the dev team

For now I'm gonna use lemmy if I can, but you can't expect people from reddit to come here and support you guys

That's because you want to have your cake and eat it too.

Go back to Reddit with such shitty takes where you move away from massive corporations only to leech off small projects supported by small donors and real people.

You're literally just another one of those people complaining about the lack of alternatives in tech while also being unwilling to support the products you're currently using and talking shit about...

[–] ungsund@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why? So more users like you can come to this platform and use it while shitting all over it by contributing nothing to it?

As I already said, go back to Reddit

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just doubled my monthly contribution! Thanks for the reminder.

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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a (small) monthly supporter already! I wish lemmy had a way to give people a little checkbox in their profile for supporters.

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[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

thanks for the post sir, happy to throw a few money units in

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