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Virginia signs national popular vote bill into law, joining interstate compact with 17 other states and District of Columbia

A national majority vote for president is one step closer to reality after the Virginia governor, Abigail Spanberger, signed the national popular vote bill into law, joining an interstate compact with 17 other states and the District of Columbia.

Under the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, states would assign their presidential electors to the winner of the popular vote, regardless of the results within the state. The compact takes effect when states representing a majority of electoral votes – 270 of 538 – pass the legislation and thus would determine the winner of the presidential contest. With Virginia, the compact now has 222 electors.

Every state that has so far enacted the compact has Democratic electoral majorities, including California, New York and Illinois. But legislation has been introduced in enough states to reach the 270-elector threshold, including swing states like Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 86 points 5 months ago (21 children)

Umm... hold on, did something good just happen?

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

Not yet, but it's getting closer to actually happening. It is at a minimum not a bad thing.

[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago

Per the description in the post.

The compact takes effect when states representing a majority of electoral votes – 270 of 538 – pass the legislation and thus would determine the winner of the presidential contest. With Virginia, the compact now has 222 electors.

In other words, they need additional states with a combined total of at least 48 electoral votes to pass the legislation in order for it to take effect. So they're closer, but nothing has happened quite yet.

[–] PinkDogwood@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Right? I'm so thrown off.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

1990s problems require 1990s solutions.

[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

If this passes, my bet is on the two party system becoming a distant memory very quickly.

This is what we need.

Come on America, despite the horrors we see now this is our chance to make things right and show the world that we actually intend to become the country we’ve always pretended to be. Let’s show the world how to rise up, break free of our shackles, and create a society that takes care of each other and our planet.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

The cause behind the two party stranglehold is the first past the post system, not the electoral college or voting districts or anything like that (Duverger's law). Choosing the president by popular vote will be great, but it won't solve that.

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don’t think the popular vote compact would diminish the two parties.

As far as I understand it the compact says all the states in the compact will pledge their electoral college electors to the popular vote winner.

The popular vote winner is still just the candidate with the most votes nationally so all the incentives and structures that lead to two parties are still at play.

Third parties are suppressed in a winner take all system largely due to the spoiler effect, a smaller third party pulls votes from a larger party.

Voters would still be incentivized to vote for one of the two major parties witb the same logic as today, a vote for a third party has little chance of winning and so it largely has the effect of denying a vote to the major party you would most align with.

To be clear, I think the way we’ve arranged democracy in America is quite stupid and mathematically guarantees a duopoly of parties both of which become enmeshed with and captured by the donor class. A popular vote compact is better than the goofy electoral college, I just don’t think it really does anything to break the grip of the two party system.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Am I reading this correctly, 17 States have already banded together to end first-past-the-post voting for POTUS?

[–] brandon@piefed.social 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

It does not end first past the post voting. If it went into effect it would essentially mean that the popular vote would determine the outcome of the presidential election, by forcing the electoral college results to match. The popular vote would still be first past the post.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 5 months ago

Nah. This will solve electoral college in maybe 50 years.

We'll fix first past the post in maybe 250 years.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 10 points 5 months ago

Maybe one day they'll be a democracy, but I don't think the ruling class will allow it

[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope it accounts for what happens if those States’ votes equal/exceed 270 at one time but then electoral fuckery occurs and they drop below that number due to their bullshit census tallies. Because we all know Repubs will pull it in a heartbeat.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the only way the compact survives is if it would not have affected the outcome of an election. If it will have an effect, every red state in the compact will have legislation on the governor's desk by election day, calling for the immediate withdrawal from the compact, before the EC meets. That legislation will be wildly popular among the voters of those states.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My vote doesn’t matter as I’m from a state that has been democratic since I was born.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 15 points 5 months ago

With the compact taking effect, your vote would matter again, every vote would matter.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 months ago

well make sure it stays that way.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

If this was ever going to pass, it would be during this time.

I’d love it so much if this were the case.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (11 children)

This compact is extremely unlikely to ever be enforceable. The ensuing court cases would make 2000 seem minor.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The Constitution gives the power to the states to appoint and direct their electors.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago

Supreme Court: "Not like that."

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

States determine their election laws. Including how they apportion electoral college electors. I'm not sure what the counter-argument to that is.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not a legal argument but there is at least one state that already floated the idea of undermining the whole thing by refusing to publish their vote totals until all the electors are gathered to vote thereby preventing the popular vote from being determined ahead of time.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then couldn't they just ignore that state in the tally? It's just a quick way to disenfranchise your own state.

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