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Do most Brits still think chav was/is an actual subculture? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world to c/askuk@feddit.uk

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I remember an assignment we had was reading Chavs by Owen Jones, and based on that book it seems like sociologists agree that chav was never a subculture, it was the upper classes taking ordinary working class young people fashion and turned it into a made up, monstrous delinquent subculture to paint the working class people as bad or something. Owen Jones said it was not a subculture and nobody unironically identified as a chav. It was purely a classist insult.

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[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

SHUT UP ABOUT CHAVS, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KEEP ASKING THIS QUESTION FOR? EVERY WEEK WITH THIS SHIT.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“chavs” are a real thing. not a subculture but just, scum on the streets

not sure why youre so obsessed with them though

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

As I told you when your unhealthy obsession presented itself last week, Owen Jones is a political activist and polemical opinion columnist, not a sociologist.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago

Nobody unironically identifies as an idiot - idiots don't exist.

[–] heliotrope@retrofed.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Please get a life. If you're a chav/ned/roadman, we honestly don't care; nor do we give a fuck if you like them.

I, a member of the working class from the north-east, have both close friends and sworn enemies across this demographic. Do I want to be a part of it myself? Not really. Do I care if other people do/are? Also no. You do you.

Alternatively, if this is a hyperfixation, there are friendlier ways to approach it than accusing the Fediverse of classism.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 0 points 3 months ago