They can get gas from Russia
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In fact, I don't see where else they could get it at this point. Export capacity from the US is limited, and their producers can't fill such a huge gap. The real question is why Russia would sell gas to them right now instead of their partners in BRICS.
The best possible outcome is for Europe to return to being an agrarian economy. The world doesn't need European manufacturing, and Europe might become peaceful or at least less of a threat to the rest of the world.
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Must be killing you to realize that your crumbling empires are becoming a part of history as they fade into irrelevance today, and not even being able to whine about it online
Europe is not a threat to the world. The US, and in smaller part the UK and France probably are. I do not think anybody needs to worry about Denmark or Germany invading their country. On the contrary, the continuous threats to European security are pushing for European rearmament and military unification.
Germany is the 3rd largest weapons provider to Israel, and Merz did say that Israel is doing their dirty work. Germany is clearly a threat. I don't know enough to pass a judgement on Denmark but I don't expect it to be significantly better.
Iran, china, India does the same with weapon exports. If you are industrialized you sell weapons.
India does supply Israel but Iran and China? Germany also stood by Israel as it is committing a genocide, and so did India, but Iran and China?
Iran and china supply Russia against Ukraine. Is the genocide done by Israel bad but the one done by Russia fine?
Evidence of genocide in Palestine:
- https://www.wrmea.org/israel-palestine/holocaust-scholars-say-israel-is-committing-genocide.html
- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent_and_incitement_in_the_Gaza_genocide
Evidence of genocide in Ukraine:
But Ukraine is the one committing it.
Genocide is always bad, but Russia isn't guilty of it. There is a definition for genocide and it doesn't apply to Russia's actions in Ukraine. Accusing Russia of genocide is either ignorance on your behalf to what a genocide is, or a roundabout way to deny it in Palestine.
Honestly, I could list hundreds of documented instances of Russia genocide in Ukraine, with state sponsored declarations of explicit genocide intent. The evidence is so well documented and overwhelming that I can only presume a biased dishonest stance from you.
Making discussing this with you a waste of time.
EDIT: making a small list to shut down deniers. I will not waste more time than this on something so easy to research. According to UN genocide convention:
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group (Article II, Section e): the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for Russian President Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova (Russia’s Commissioner for Children’s Rights). Ukraine has documented the forced deportation of over 19,000 children to Russia or Russian-occupied territories, where they are frequently subjected to "Russification" processes, given Russian citizenship, and placed with Russian families.
- Killing members of the group & Causing serious bodily or mental harm (Article II, Sections a & b): The UN Commission of Inquiry and various human rights groups have extensively documented mass executions, systematic torture, and sexual violence in previously occupied areas such as Bucha, Izyum, and Kherson.
- State promoted deletion of Ukrainian culture and identity: Vladimir Putin: In his July 2021 essay, “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians,” Putin laid the ideological groundwork for the invasion by explicitly denying the existence of a distinct Ukrainian nation, arguing that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and that a sovereign Ukraine is an artificial construct entirely created by foreign powers. Dmitry Medvedev (Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia): Medvedev has repeatedly used eliminationist rhetoric on his official Telegram channel. He has referred to Ukraine as a "fake" and "cancerous" state, stated that "deep Ukrainianism... is one big fake," and declared that a sovereign Ukraine has no right to exist and must be entirely absorbed or destroyed. Maria Lvova-Belova: In public broadcasts, she has openly discussed the systematic removal of Ukrainian children and their "integration" into Russian society. She has spoken about teaching Ukrainian children to love Russia, effectively admitting to the intent to erase their previous national identity.
This is 100% genocide, and if you negate that you live in a different reality than me. On top of that, Russia is currently engaging in a war of conquest. Russia is a country build on genocide and conquest.
Honestly, I could list hundreds of documented instances of Russia genocide in Ukraine
and yet, you don't. curious!
Can't say about 3, seems only words in which Putin and Medvedev refer to Ukraine, in the same notion as we refer to Israel, saying that it isn't real state does not constitute genocide, about Maria Lvova-Belova i would need link instead of your paraphrasis. Also the notion that Russia russifies Ukrainian children is debunked too, so it seems only empty words too. Bucha was a false flag.
Bucha:
https://www.donbass-insider.com/2022/04/04/ukraine-the-massacre-of-bucha-a-ukrainian-timisoara/
https://billgalston.substack.com/p/shocking-details-about-alleged-bucha
Children:
You deny Bucha with anonymous quora post.
I use:
United Nation reports: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/un-report-details-summary-executions-civilians-russian-troops-northern
Human Rights watch: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/21/ukraine-russian-forces-trail-death-bucha
Amnesty international: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5561/2022/en/
Bucha denial is the same as holocaust denial. You are doing real damage and cause lot of suffering for innocent people by justifying war criminals. I do not know how can you disconnect so much from reality to find this acceptable
You seem to be incredibly mad that your old and debunked propaganda is old and debunked.
I am frustrated that people around the world suffer because of you and people like you justifying war criminals with baseless foundations
Lol he said, while breathlessly spreading the propaganda of the Epstein Empire
Bucha denial is the same as holocaust denial.
That's funny, a few years ago that's what you guys were saying about Uygur genocide denial. Of course, when it turned out no such genocide was happening, even to the point that the UN abandoned that accusation, no lessons were learned and the crimes of the west were projected onto the next opponent instead.
The UN has not abandoned any accusation on the Bucha massacre. Proof is extensive, sources independently verified. I have made no claim on Uygur as I am not knowledgeable enough to discuss it.
And once upon a time the UN had not abandoned the story of a Uyghur genocide. Until they did. Your "extensive proof" comes from the same people who swore up and down that Saddam Hussein was building WMDs. When will you learn.
Let me put it simply.
Do you think we should trust what Russian-funded sources say about Russia's enemies? You probably don't, right? Why not? Because you think they're genocidal, right?
Yet you choose to believe what American-funded sources say about America's enemies, when we have all watched America perpetrate a genocide and install a nazi government in Ukraine to do ethnic cleansing for eight years. This is a matter of indisputable fact.
But you think what, that these same people are somehow above lying about their rivals? You think the US empire maintains the world's largest systems of propaganda and consent manufacturing for fun? You think the Epstein capitalists who talk amongst themselves about "population control" are above projecting their crimes onto others? Get real.
This is the unspoken hypocrisy here: you are deep in the grips of an outrage manufactured by the ultimate perpetrators of everything you profess to oppose, and they are pointing you towards their enemies to make it easier for them to do the stuff you hate.
If an anonymous post on a blog has the same weight as independent organizations across multiple nations, multiple journalists, military analysts from multiple countries and photographic and videographic proofs, then nothing can be proven and you believe in what you want to be true. You are basing your ideas on faith and partisanship.
"Independent" organizations that all take US think tank money
"Multiple militaries" all of which just so happen to be aligned with Ukraine in a war. I guess independence doesn't matter in this case for some reason
You are basing your ideas on faith and partisanship.
I am basing my ideas on a sense of pattern recognition that exceeds the span of the last two weeks. You are choosing to trust the side that has claimed, just in my lifetime:
-Iraq is building nukes (so we need to invade and kill a million people)
-Afghanistan uh, something something terrorism (so we need to invade and kill a shitload of people)
-Libya is giving it's soldiers viagra to rape people (for no reason, just because they're savages, so we need to topple the government and turn it into a failed state)
-Syria is killing it's own people with sarin gas (for no reason, just because they're savages, so we need to topple the government and turn it into a failed state)
-North Korea is an evil hell state where there's literally no electricity and people have to push the trains by hand (so we have to-ah shit, nevermind, they got nukes, let's just stop talking about them. Also they just hate us for no reason because they're crazy, do not look into what we did in the 1950s. In fact, do not look into our history with any of the groups and countries that dislike us. They're just jealous of our freedom.)
-China is totally, for real, genociding Muslims. No reason given, they're simply sinister Asians and that's just the kind of thing they do. No you cannot see evidence, here's the testimony of one insane German man.
-Russia has suddenly attacked Ukraine for absolutely no reason, because Vladmir Putin, the one person who controls all of Russia by himself, has been driven mad by the One Ring or something. Also, Ukraine is not run by nazis. Please ignore all the swastikas.
-Russia is totally, for real, genociding Ukrainians. Evidence? Uhh here's this massacre in the middle of a war zone in a town that had just been occupied by Azov. It was definitely Russians, and not the seig heiling fascists who just spent 8 years massacring people with our support. It was Russians. Why? Because they're sinister Asians, and that's just the kind of thing they do.
-Hamas totally, for real, beheaded 40 babies and raped a zillion women on October 7. They also baked a baby in an oven. No you cannot see evidence, and in fact you are an antisemite for asking. Now we must commit genocide.
-Iran totally, for real, mowed down ~~4,000~~ ~~12,000~~ ~~20,000~~ ~~40,000~~ nine morbillion protestors in the street. No we do not have evidence, despite the fact that spy satellites are capable of reading a newspaper from orbit and that level of carnage would be visible from space. You must simply trust me bro. We have to bomb 150 schoolkids.
This is just the major stuff I can recall off the dome right now. And isn't it a coincidence that the side you're choosing to trust is the side who's cultural and political narratives you've been marinated in since birth? Whose movies you've watched, whose news you've consumed, whose views on other people and countries you've internalized since you were old enough to understand speech? But I'm sure a lifetime of existing in a pro-imperial western information bubble has had no effect on the worldview of a coldly rational free thinker like you. It certainly hasn't predisposed you to lend more trust to your own perceived ingroup while conveniently reserving suspicion for pre-designated enemies, or anything primitive like that.
So let's say you have to make a bet, you're putting money down. A lot of money, enough to buy a house. You're staking your entire financial future on the outcome of this bet. Forget all familiarity and affinity, forget who you want to be right; this is business. Only the facts matter here.
Which side do you think is more likely to be lying about Bucha?
Which side has a centuried habit of lying about it's rivals and projecting it's crimes onto them?
Which side operates the largest propaganda machine in history?
Which of us do you think is more likely to be operating off of faith and partisanship?
Remember, you stand to lose a lot of money here, so be honest with yourself.
Which of us do you think is *more likely* to be operating off of faith and partisanship?
You are more likely, as you believe I believe in thing I made no claim on. You just add a label on me based on perceived “affiliation”. This is the essence of partisanship. US can support genocide while Russia does the same. The fact you fell the need to pick a side is direct demonstration of partisanship.
Again, which side has a history of both doing genocide and lying about it? And I'm not letting you slink away from this question: which side, gun to your head, do you think is more likely to be lying? You can snidely ignore all my other points and say "no u" all you want, i want to know which side you think is more trustworthy and why.
Both sides are lying! How is this so hard for you to understand. Russia is committing genocide. Israel is committing genocide. Russia was founded on genocide and conquest. The list of war crimes Russia is committing is ever growing, clear as day, documented. We have first hand testimony, videos, independent journalists reporting on the front every day. How is it that you feel like they are telling the truth on their invasion of another country. Why do you trust the government that lies every day and contradict itself continuously? I do not trust Donald Trump. Why would you trust Putin? They are but the same shit but somewhat you feel like one deserve your trust just because sono quora post made by some propaganda man.
If both sides are lying, how come you choose to believe one about the other? These claims don't arise from nowhere: you are believing the story of a faction you admit is lying, when they claim the other side is lying. What you're doing is the equivalent of saying "Israel is committing genocide, and Hamas beheaded 40 babies and wants to kill every Jew is the world. Both sides are lying, why is this so hard for you to understand?"
You are presenting yourself as an impartial observer, but you're explicitly lending credence to the propaganda of one side: the side that has lied for centuries, which also just so happens to be the side you grew up in.
When Ukraine loses the war soon, you will find that the state and people will remain very much un-genocided by the Russian Federation, but instead immiserated by the regime of austerity and privatization forced on them by their western "benefactors".
Because data do not care about sides. If you have different sources from different nations and different entities providing corroborating evidences (satellite images from private companies, survivors interviews from independent journalists, radio interception, videos from front line soldiers) and have thousand of independent lawyers, analysts, activists from multiple nations creating reports of thousand of pages that all agree despite being from non aligned countries and no profit, then there is weight on what is written in those reports.
If the US lies very often and the US says that Russia is committing genocide that does not mean that Russia is not committing genocide. This just means that the US does not lie all the time. If Russia tell the truth sometimes does not mean they do not lie very often.
Explain to me why you feel the need to pic side with a corrupt government when there is no need to do that.
EDIT: just to further clarify: I do not believe Russia is committing genocide because the US said so. I believe it because reliable independent data says so. If the US government agrees with data because it is convenient for them to say so, I do not care. The US agreeing with reality does not change reality. Believing Russia telling that Russia is not committing crimes in their invasion of Ukraine is stupid and naive.
You reply to the international criminal court and the Ukrainian state with random blog as if your information are somewhat more reliable. Nothing is debunked we have thousands of names and first hand testimony. This is ridiculous; explain to me what is the process you are using to establish truth. It is definitely flawed
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
This one is especially spurious - should they leave the children in a warzone? Evacuating them is humane, hardly genocidal.
I'm not the person you said this to, I would appreciate at least one example so I can check it out and learn
Look at my other post in this thread.
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Which comment was this intended as a reply to?
Probably to my comment with links, i don't feel the need to respond to such a thought terminating cliche although it's very funny that they accidentally answered to their own drivel with that.
Correct, it was your comment with link. What is making it a thought terminating cliche? Your links are not a reliable source of information. You inform yourself using false data and claim it as reality. How can you make a proper determination on what is real using such sources?
You seem to be incredibly mad that your old and debunked propaganda is old and debunked.
I guess Icelandic are happy to not be under Denmark rule since 1946 and Greenland would probably like some more independance I think
WWIII will be caused by hoarding of energy. Green solutions are fantastic, but they have been kicked down the road for too long.
When oil prices went up in 2022, I cried for ukrainian kids but hoped it would be an electrochoc to build a post oil&gas world.
It is not happening fast enough.