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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago
[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what is this supposed to mean

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Epstein was friends with the guy who ran 4chan and started /pol/ and "trans agenda" concept.

https://boards.4chan.org/lgbt/thread/42550413

[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I read about that. Doing our man Théoden dirty here imo. Trust, transphobia in the US has a longer and dirtier history than that, and transphobes aren't just some pedos' catspaw

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Doing our man Théoden dirty here imo.

Not at all! The purpose of the Grima & Théoden subplot was to illustrate how nobody is immune to deception and propaganda. We need working class conservatives to wake up and realize they've been lied to.

Meanwhile I think you're conflating homophobia with transphobia. Heck they were called "shemales" and sex changes until Bruce Jenner got one. Nobody cared, there were no "trans" or "cis" like there is now. People were waaay too busy being homophobic and insecure about their orientation to care about what was generally considered a very niche kink.

The purpose of the Grima & Théoden subplot was to illustrate how nobody is immune to deception and propaganda. We need working class conservatives to wake up and realize they've been lied to.

Coming at it from this angle I don't disagree, but I also don't think it addresses people's often conscious buying-in to a hierarchical system of oppression which can stem from personal and preexisting prejudices. Not every transphobe or racist is a lost sheep. Many know exactly what they're doing. They're the ones who push the propaganda the hardest, after all. Even Grima sheds a tear when he sees what Saruman is doing will be the end of man.

Meanwhile I think you're conflating homophobia with transphobia.

Not at all. We were curiosities, aberrations. The word "shemale" says it all. Ever read about John Money?

Back in the day, gender affirming treatment was strictly gatekept by the medical community. Trans women were expected to show up in "crossdress" to prove their need for treatment. They needed letters from mental health professionals. They were directed after surgery/treatment to never reveal to anyone their past life as a man.

We were invisible because these people decided we should be.