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Experts are warning that the Trump administration's ongoing crackdown in Minnesota could quickly get out of hand and could even result in a second US civil war.

Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, wrote in a Wednesday column published by the Guardian that she and her colleagues at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) conducted a tabletop exercise in October 2024 that simulated potential outcomes if a US president were to carry out law enforcement operations similar to the ones being conducted by the Trump administration with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers in Minnesota.

"In that exercise, a president carried out a highly unpopular law-enforcement operation in Philadelphia and attempted to federalize the Pennsylvania’s National Guard," Finkelstein explained. "When the governor resisted and the guard remained loyal to the state, the president deployed active-duty troops, resulting in an armed conflict between state and federal forces."

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[–] grober_Unfug@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The perfect excuse for invoking the insurrection act and then cancel the midterms.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

This might be the end goal, even without a civil war. Polls have shown that 45 and party are deeply unpopular

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

Which would leave no means of resistance but confrontation. Unfortunately all the "well-organized militias" have decided they love government tyranny after all, and joined ICE.

[–] French75@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

I'm sure that the research team is awesome, and maybe saying this is important to some audience, but even to non-experts, it's pretty obvious it's already started.

[–] Szewek@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly - however grim it might sound - I kinda hope so. The way US acts internationally, a civil war would at least involve one country, not many.

[–] Szewek@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

I wish the USAns can do it peacefully. But I feel desperate about anything that will work against their fascist government and business.