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I had chicken pox as a kid. I think the vaccine for it only came out after my youngest sibling was around the age for it, as she is the only one of us that got the vaccination and not the illness itself.
Fuck this mentality. Nobody deserves to suffer that shit just because you and I had to. You're supposed to try and give your kids a better experience than you had. Vaccinate your god damn children.
I was really young when I got chicken pox, maybe 5 years old? The thing I remember most is getting winter mittens taped to my hands so I couldn’t scratch my butthole until it bled. It was TORTURE. No one should have to suffer like that if they don’t have to.
I remember getting two weeks off school, the first week was a little tough but the second week was joy.
Once upon a time trepanning - drilling a hole in the skull to "let evil spirits out" - was a common medical practice. We don't do that anymore either, for what I should hope are obvious reasons.
Mercury was once used as a treatment for syphilis, among many other things. Lobotomies, radium "treatment", cocaine and heroin was used as a treatment for children with a cough, smoking was recommended as a treatment for asthma, electroshock therapy was used for damn near everything, induced insulin comas, arsenic and lead, tapeworm diets...
You all get the point.
I think they also used malaria as a treatment for syphilis, then treated the malaria with quinine
I was just reading about that. Good grief.
It's absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles, but if you get the vaccine, you get neither. But hey, I get it, big pharma is a monster, but many that rally against vaccines also use Ozempic, and plastic surgery etc. Is RFK really onto a thing with vaccines when he's taking steroids?
It's absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles
It's not one or the other though. If you don't get chicken pox you can't get shingles
Yes, the author is stupid to be advocating for chicken pox.
Even setting aside the discomfort of chicken pox, catching chicken pox (particularly as a young child) increases the risk of shingles. Nobody in their right mind wants shingles.
Not just discomfort, it can, in some cases, leave you with permanent injury.
"long-term complications of childhood chicken pox" is one search that they don't do
Profound hole in the “do your own research” theory: not knowing how to do thorough research
Even if they get the right search terms, they'll just keep scrolling till they find an obscure blog with an anecdote from 2 mothers which confirms their existing bias.
I had chicken pox when I was three and it's one of my few memories from that time in my life.
Fuuuuuck these people abusing their children.
If shingles are good for a roof, why not you? Checkmate liberals
Yeah, I don't wanna hear shit about chickenpox being good for a child. I was too young to be able to get the vaccine and because of that, there's a chance I get the complications of getting pox that you get later in life. It wasn't even my own parents fault, since I caught it in daycare.
Also, if I remember correctly, Japan rolled out the first chickenpox vaccines to prevent it from becoming a mass epidemic on their island nation.
Edit:
It's shingles. That's the complication that can happen later in life after having pox.
Chicken pox was. Miserable, and I'm didn't have it that bad.
Give the kids the vaccine
Shingles fuckin sucks. Had it crop up when I was in 6th grade, only like 5 or 6 years after having chicken pox. Miserable week or so. Not that I’ll have to, but I wouldn’t make my kids go to school if they had shingles.
In Denmark we don't vaccinate for chicken pox for exactly the reasons given in the post.
I hope you vaccinate for shingles then, because it can be very painful and debilitating
The vaccine was just after I got it. Miserable. I lived in an oatmeal bath. My poor mother got it as an adult (when we got it and gave it to her)
She was worse up in all ways.
I'd have gnawed someone's ankle off to have gotten the vaccine instead. But especially for my mother to have gotten it.
We all had it when we were kids. A friend of mine had it really bad and he has pock marks all over his face and body, he was always the handsome one, but after that it changed him and he was never the same again.
From then on, always looking down at the ground, brooding, scratching the dirt with his feet, eating bugs, and going crazy for buckets of scraps
I had chicken pox as a kid and while it wasn't horrible, I def could've done without a lesion appearing both on my dick and the roof of my mouth.
Anti vaxxers are fucking bonkers
I had dick pox too. I remember being like, 9, and dabbing that horrible yellow ointment on my foreskin and shaft. That was my first "I'm too old for this shit" moment
I am currently in the middle of my second round of shingles. I have extreme pain from my right knee, up through my groin, and over my buttock, and to the middle of my chest on the right side. Any touch, including my underwear, clothes, and bed sheets is very painful. Putting my underwear on and taking it off is agony.
I am contagious so I can't go anywhere near children or the immune compromised.
Fortunately I have access to modern medicine and got a prescription for famcyclovir for the shingles and pregabalin for the nerve pain.
Seriously, get your children vaccinated. If you haven't had chicken pox get yourself vaccinated. If you had chicken pox get the shingles vaccine. If you got the old shingles vaccine get the new shingles vaccine, it's better.
And, most important of all, fuck the antivaxers.
Annoyingly, where I live, they won't let you have the shingles vaccine until age 50 for... reasons, I guess?
But you better believe it's one of the items on my to do list for my 50th birthday week.
I'm going to get the fucking vaccine as soon as I can after I'm done with this round. Two rounds of the shingles is uncommon, three is rare, but I'm not going to take the chance.
fuck the antivaxers.
No, don't. That's how we get more of the idiots.
Yeah, thanks to my mom being an anti-vaccer I'm now stuck with shingles for life too. Every ten years it'll crop up again, I've been told. No way to get rid of it once you have it. It'll just hang out in your nerve ends, dormant, and occasionally wake up.
My first bout of shingles was two years ago. Here in Denmark it's called "helvedild", literally translated to "hellfire", an apt name.
Thanks mom.
Do you have access to famcyclovir? If you begin treatment within 72 hours of the onset of symptoms it can stop the outbreak quickly and prevents the postherpatic neuralgia that sometimes happens in older people.
During my first outbreak the doctor said he was going to prescribe acyclovir and that the rash would spread to cover half of my body including my eyes, nose, mouth, genitals, and anus. Fun. I asked what would happen if I didn't take the acyclovir. He said, "The same thing." So the acyclovir does nothing. I asked him to prescribe famcyclovir. He said it was much more expensive than acyclovir but he would prescribe it if I wanted. It cost $200 for the treatment but the blisters didn't spread from the first small patch on my right hip and dried up within a couple of days. Why the hell would I take acyclovir if it does nothing if famcyclovir is available.
This time around the doctor just wrote me the prescription for famcyclovir. I've taken 3 doses so far and the blisters on my thigh seem reduced.
A colleague got shingles with ... 55? He had stroke-like symptoms, i. e. half of his face is drooping, he lost control of one of his eyelids, and his mouth doesn't close completely anymore.
What's the point of giving every virus the chance to thrive?
In other news, measles is spreading in Canada and the US (but only Canada is reporting it)
Why would it being acceptable 30 years ago mean anything at all in this context? Who fucking cares what was acceptable 30 years ago?
Science progresses. We understand things more over time. That's how it works.
Lmdao can you even do your own research? Sience goes counter upside in a clock by three west direction, not forwards.
And vaccines are full of tiny bees that tell the government whenever you masturbate. Do you WANT masturbation bees? Pffffffff
It's even worse than this. From Wikipedia:
The chickenpox vaccine first became commercially available in 1984.[10] It was first licensed for use in the US by Merck, under the brand name Varivax, in 1995.
So in a way it being acceptable 30 years ago does mean something. Not what the author thought though.
Chicken pox vaccine is a relatively recent invention. Before vaccination we knew that chicken pox was bad in kids but very bad in adults so better to get it as a kid if you had to get it at all. The vaccine changes the equation and not being able to evaluate that is a sign of stupidity. The vitriol from other parents is because she is hurting kids because she's stupid.
And people are fucking supporting this shit. Fuck Facebook this fucking malware is brain washing people.