The fuck does she think indoctrination means? Oh that's right, they've long given up arguing in good faith. There is no rational point to be made, I always forget that.
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Anything she doesn’t already believe.
Indoctrination means 'My children don't respect what my gut knows to be true!!!'
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Says the party that literally wanted to modify the grade school syllabus to teach that the 2020 US election was stolen.
~~wanted to~~
well, that's depressing, thanks for clearing it up.
The department head shit was also extremely frustrating. I wanted the position, had been flow out to a leadership conference by the district the summer before, presented a spreadsheet documenting some of my plans for improvement over five years (detailed, worked with some of the best minds in science education.)
But the anti vaxxer applied too. His great plan was “we should focus on more reading.”
I’m sure the fact that I was 🏳️🌈 had zero impact on the principals decision lol. (Anti vaxxer guy did limp wrist impressions of me too. But who the fuck cared.)
Like it’s amazing. Oklahoma just actively does not want capable teachers.
The kids are not OK
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Such incredibly sore losers...
There’s a reason Oklahoma is 49th for education.
During COVID, the biology teacher at the high school I worked (and later, the fucking department head) was a creationist with a Bible college degree that would compliment students for forgoing masks and explicitly taught anti-vaxx shit.
Climate change is fun too - I put on a PD once and a teacher was really fucking pissed that I was showing data on how Milanokovich cycles do not explain modern climate patterns… literally thought she was going to fight me.
Milanokovich Cycles
That has to be the dumbest excuse for anti-climate change arguments I've heard in a while.
Do people really think that every single climate scientist who has dedicated their lives to studying shit that affects the climate, is unaware of and didn't account for, natural variations in solar energy the Earth receives, which I learned about in elementary school?
Federally funded school from age 3 to 20 doesn't sound like education
Yes it does, you bleached Wookie, it sounds exactly like education.
Sounds like a stealth insult to bleached Wookies, somehow.
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Her side would rather have state-funded religious schools from age 3-20.
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Cons are the stupidest fucks this side of alpha fucking centauri.
Eating food from birth till the day you die? Doesn't sound like living to me, sounds like an addiction.
Just wait til you hear about water! Everybody who drinks it? Dead. 100% mortality rate, no cure, and once you start, you're hooked!
I may agree with Olbermann here but let's not forget:
Yes I know my enemies
They’re the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are American dreams
Came on shuffle the other day and inspired me to pickup the guitar for a couple hours and annoy the crap out of my kid
She's got a BA from University of Georgia.
This isn't an education problem. It's pure propaganda and the allure of selling out on social media.
Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 1968 with a bachelor's degree in economics.
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We're all going to run headlong into a very difficult inflection point in human development as a species very, very soon. Which is the looming divide between people who have no idea how their own minds work, and those who have even a shred of self-awareness.
And not a "facebook/twitter argument" type of self-awareness, but understanding that your intelligence and your understanding of things are entirely separate factors. We are species of cognitive dissonance. It's baked-in. Everyone, even YOU personally reading this, has some level of contradictory ideas or feelings that you can't pry apart without effort.
Some people think about how they think, and come to conclusion that they need to make effort to balance out their values and understanding of the world. Other people are going "brain go vroom" and conclude any idea they have, no matter how ridiculous, as long as it aligns with how they feel at that moment, MUST be true because they still think brains are fact-finding machines, not story-telling machines. This is why we have anti-vax doctors and climate-change-denying scientists (although rare) which is because they live in reaction and story-telling, not reason. If anything, education can make it much, much harder to break out of story-telling-reaction mode, because you think your own thoughts far less fallible.
So yeah, education is only part of the problem. We are going to have to figure out ways to teach people self-awareness, how to think about their own thoughts, or we're going to have billions of brains rotting in an AI/social-media/emotional-porn cesspit in the next decade and they vote and carry guns.
It reminds me of the "missing missing reasons" post, which describes how for some people reality creates emotions, but for other people emotions create reality
The first viewpoint, "emotion creates reality," is truth for a great many people. Not a healthy truth, not a truth that promotes good relationships, but a deep, lived truth nonetheless. It's seductive. It means that whatever you're feeling is just and right, that you're never in the wrong unless you feel you're in the wrong. For people whose self-image is so battered and fragile that they can't bear anything but validation, often it feels like the only way they can face the world.
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Holy fuck do the maga just shotgun acid and become the stupidest zombies?
I mean they would probably be a lot cooler if they were on acid all the time.
They'd probably chill on the whole "let's make a fascist death cult!" thing too
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That's the neat part. It's weaponized feigned incompetence.
After Noem got the definition of Habeus Corpus exactly wrong in a recent hearing, some Lemmings have suggested that the RNC stooges in power are all playing dumb. Now, I can't unsee it. It makes sense: play dirty because your aims are underhanded and illegal, and your opposition is both outraged and busy attacking the wrong thing. Every time we all get in a fit about how stupid this sounds, which takes up valuable space and time from doing anything useful.
Edit: it's like a misbehaving kid that knows if he keeps telling the right kind of lie he can get away with just about anything.
Edit2: In Greene's case, her "argument" is also signaling being a "useful idiot" to her base for getting the job done.
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Meaning, she at least recognizes that more education = less radical views? Which is… counter her point of indoctrination.
What's especially fucking dumb is the argument of 'hurr money out of your pocket'. That shit goes right out the god damned window the second you look at where our taxes go i.e. the budget. Of what we overall pay education is laughably low.
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The US is just not a real country. It's a horror story to scare the children.
she got engagement and ad-hominem is hardly a burn :/
leaving that musk-fueled cesspool is the better move imo.
It's not an ad hominem if it's directly related to the topic of debate
Stupid freeloading children want us to pay for school when clearly we are low on cash after giving it all to the military!
I went to a religious private school and they tried to indoctrinate me to fascism
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And this is why Twitter should be nuked from orbit…
Pretty sure she went to public schools.
Obviously privately held education will be held to the highest of standards.
And will never indoctrinate. Anyone.
Because the people in power will be held responsible to no one.
Nestle.
Fox.
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