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A photograph of Trump administration official Mike Waltz's phone shows him using an unofficial version of Signal designed to archive messages during a cabinet meeting.

Mike Waltz, who was until Thursday U.S. National Security Advisor, has inadvertently revealed he is using an obscure and unofficial version of Signal that is designed to archive messages, raising questions about what classification of information officials are discussing on the app and how that data is being secured, 404 Media has found.

On Thursday Reuters published a photograph of Waltz checking his mobile phone during a cabinet meeting held by Donald Trump.

The screen appears to show messages from various top level government officials, including JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Marco Rubio.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

what a putz

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We trained him wrong, as a joke

[–] junderwood@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

squeak squeak

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I am bleeding, leaving me the victor!

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone should really try "my nuts to your fist style."

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[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Eeny meeny miney mo

I wonder where my glove will go

[–] cykopidgeon@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DA NA NA NA NA- NEO.

DA NA NA NA NA NA NA- SPORIN.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You're thinking of Grind'r.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemme get this straight

It's a problem for the government to use signal because all govt correspondence needs to be on record and retrievable in the future

But it's also a problem to use archiving of encrypted chats?

Not an American, can someone explain?

[–] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes.

The answer is that this is all a bunch of stupid bullshit and that the Trumplicans truly don't give a damn about laws that no one can force them to follow.

At this point, there's really no point in trying to look for consistency or rational justification for anything these people do.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What laws are being broken? If republicans control both houses, why don't they approve the app or change the law?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Government communications must be archived.

The head of each Federal agency shall make and preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency and designed to furnish the information necessary to protect the legal and financial rights of the Government and of persons directly affected by the agency’s activities. 44 U.S. Code § 3101.

By using Signal, they're intentionally breaking the law since Signal doesn't retain communications. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is they don't want a record so they can't be held accountable in the future.

If republicans control both houses, why don’t they approve the app or change the law?

The simple answer is that this wouldn't pass the Senate, because the filibuster still exists (for now) and you need 2/3s vote to end debate and hold a vote (called cloture). It's unlikely you'd get the 15 or so Dems needed for this to happen.

The complicated answer is that Congress has been perfectly happy ceding more and more of its authority to the Presidency for a long time now. When you're elected for a two-year term (as Representatives are) but spend 1+ year campaigning (because seriously, fuck US elections) you don't want to do anything that even the short-term-memories of American voters might remember. So they're perfectly happy letting the President take the blame for anything if it's their party in the White House, or obstructing him if it's not.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure. You are legally required to archive all correspondence by approved by our security departments software, not a corporate app that shares the info with corporations and are on unsecured servers. Our security warned them to not do this and they did it anyway.

Also, do you remember "but her emails" for Hillary Clinton? That was because she used a private app for some of her emails. She wasn't using it to wage a war.

Lemme get this straight

It’s a problem for the government to use signal because all govt correspondence needs to be on record and retrievable in the future

But it’s also a problem to use archiving of encrypted chats?

Not an American, can someone explain?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What stops the government approving the app themselves?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nothing, but it hasn't been done, therefore this is illegal.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

No, both are a problem because they aren't approved and controlled.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wish I could read the whole article

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm so grateful for archive.is and every project like it

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The article makes me wonder if Waltz is intentionally countering the counter-revolution.

Either that, or he's just stupid as fuck.

Maybe both.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Super Secret MAGA Signal Archive App!

Download MAGASecretsApp.exe at MAGASecretsApp. ru now!

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[–] DemandtheOxfordComma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To make matters somewhat worse, tele message appears to be an Israeli company

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mossad, looking through the logs: "already knew that. tell us something we don't know ffs."

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Although they are owned by Smarsh, an American company.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago

I doubt anything digital is private.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is slightly better than using regular signal. I wonder if they only started using it after the leaks?

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What would be funny is if Signal made some changes that break that app's functionality.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it is not. Those convos are being stored somewhere, who knows if it’s even completely secure.

Modified clients could be transmitting the private keys to the server.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But not storing communications like this is literally illegal. It's not good, but it's breaking the law less.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Neither the app nor the archiver are approved or managed. This is absolutely even more illegal.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it if those backups are in Russia?

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

How did this photo even happen? They don't use privacy covers? Who's running this operation??

[–] floop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is the dumbass that is running the operation. Well, not anymore. He just got fired and nominated for ambassador to the UN.

Seriously

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He just got fired and nominated for ambassador to the UN.

Wait, really? It's getting impossible to keep up with this shit.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not supposed to have sensitive info on your screen in public in the first place.

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[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

He's doing the job of a stand-up comedian. His paycheck should reflect that.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“We are currently clean on OPSEC.”

"Only the best people."

These fucking clowns. I've lived through an awful lot of Gov't by the Stupid...

(Remember when we thought Bush the Younger was the dumbest president ever...??)

But this freak show simply outdoes anything that came before. 🙄 🤡 🖕

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I long for the Bush era and that's fucking tragic.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So these convos are backed up somewhere. Outside of government control. Great.

No wonder they moved fast to block any investigation

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Noooo, it's not that they're guilty of anything... it's to protect from the deep state and the radical left commiefascist"insertbuzzword"s! I'd put "hey look at the bunny" but these assholes aren't even trying to distract anymore, it's just plain and simple corrupt government running for their own best interests while throwing out half hearted stupid sound bites to appease the brain washed.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cunts voted for this. It’s not like we didn’t know they’re this incompetent and dangerous.

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Hostile intelligence agencies can have a little espionage, as a treat.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (15 children)

The "TM SGNL PIN" message is displayed on an unofficial — and less secure — version of Signal created by a company called TeleMessage, which makes clones of popular messaging apps, but enables the ability to archive messages

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-waltz-photographed-using-signal-messaging-app-during-cabinet-meeting-2025-5?op=1

TeleMessage is an Israeli software company based in Petah Tikva, Israel. Founded in 1999 by Guy Levit and Gil Shapira, it provides secure enterprise messaging, mobile communications archiving and high-volume text messaging services.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleMessage

Let that sink in

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Gotta save that juicy blackmail

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