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I've used proton for a year or two now and it is fine. Great for use on my phone when I want to use public/airport wifi and it sort of kind of works with gluetun (the rotating port is annoying but it still is a forwarded port).

But I've increasingly been annoyed with Proton as a company and am looking to migrate my email/domain to fastmail in the very near future. I COULD continue to just pay for the vpn (60 USD a year is pretty reasonable) but also feel like this is a good opportunity to "shop around"

Checked the wiki and other FAQs (which all basically crib from said wiki) and they all basically boil down to proton or mullivad... except that mullivad apparently stopped allowing port forwarding which is a bit of an issue for any torrents and the like.

So are there any other good options?

Thanks

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought about publishing a Terraform module one time that spins up a cheap VPS, installs OpenVPN and then gives you a config with a certificate. You could run it for just a few hours at a time, and use destroy when you're done. But then I got really bored because I have ADHD.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Not a VPN, but you may also want to look into I2P.

https://i2pd.website/

https://proprivacy.com/privacy-service/guides/i2p-guide

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FNp0TRDG0BQ

Basically, a p2p protocol for the entire internet.

Its considerably more complicated to set up than most modern VPNs, where nowaday's its usually as simple as install an app with a GUI, verify some settings and you're good to go, and i2p is also quite slow...

... but its totally free, and you can torrent over it, and as far as I know, if you've set it up properly, it is basically undetectable by ISPs, due to how it uses 'garlic' routing: basically, a whole bunch of users net requests are encrypted, anonymized, and then smashed into a big packet... so an ISP would have to untangle all of that for every packet, and afaik, none of them have figured out how.

I2P would obviously be horrible for watching streaming content though, snail speed.

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's going on with Proton the company?

Edit: ah fuck, thanks for the replies. Sigh.

[–] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is NordVPN not mentioned ? I’m using it and happy so far. Should I switch to something else ?

Too much advertising, it just feels off.

No Port forwarding

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a safe assumption is that anyone that runs over half of their budget in ads can't be trusted.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have no opinion of them, but I'm curious why advertising would imply untrustworthiness. Are you saying they're too eager or something? Spending money on ads is also consistent with a company that's making money by charging for a service — I'd be more suspicious of free VPNs.

[–] zedgeist@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just throwing in another voice for PIA. Their corporate owners may be questionable, but I've been with them since before they sold out and have never heard a peep from my ISP for seeding terabytes of torrents. They don't keep logs, and they are audited to prove it regularly.

EDIT: They also have port forwarding, but not for every exit server.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PIA is such a weird one. They're massive and know what they're doing but ownership and jurisdiction have always been questionable. I have long suspected they cooperate with GHCQ but only on legitimate national security cases not piracy.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone have a good reason to go with PIA when there are others that offer a comparable service without these problems?

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Slightly better pricing for more devices and lots of servers.