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Hello World!

As we've all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:

In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn't want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.

Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it's time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!

We know it's been a rough ride with everything, and we'd like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.

With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!

Lemmy.world Team

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[–] b3an@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

This is what I like to see. Not just heels digging in, but explanations as to why, the follow-ups, the investigation of options and follow through. Thanks for the transparency. Piracy has and won’t ever go away. I used to pirate due to lack of money and resources. When I had those I went legit. When legit sources started turning into:

  • monthly subscriptions for everything
  • when legit sources suddenly delete or remove content from their systems (to avoid paying taxes?)
  • when the rates go up for everything (internet access AND streaming services)
  • now ads in your paid services unless you pay more (Amazon)
  • Plex trying to go legit and police where and how people run their private streaming, fucking over license holders who built the financial footing they could stand on in the first place. Cool.

You can’t rely on any shit from these services, except for one shit… enshittification.

I don’t want to sound negative, but as a consumer, it’s been nothing but ads rammed down our throats from everywhere we go and look. They lie, they change rates, they shrinkflate, while their pockets get bigger. Long live piracy.

[–] nickknack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

piracy has been removed again

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yet another informative post, and a decision that takes some guts and you're willing to take on some extra work and risk in order to make the instance better

I didn't want to have to do this, but you've brought this upon yourself. You give me no choice but to... donate money to you which you so damn well deserve!

Let this be a reminder that actions have consequences!

[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm glad you guys took a measured approach. This right here is the difference between a corporation and Lemmy. I can't imagine a for-profit reversing its decision in the interest of the community unless it affected their bottom line or stock price. Hats off to the admin team for working through all these complex issues.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Never should have blocked them in the first place.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Two out of these three links are broken, any idea what happened?

The error page says "The server returned this error: couldnt_find_community. This may be useful for admins and developers to diagnose and fix the error"

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Censorship, they still hate piracy. Always will. This was just a coverup.

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nice.

I hope the shrooms community can also be unbanned.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Now please unremove the shroom community as next priority. Empowering open minded people with the option and knowledge to heal themselves through the use of psychadelics (and other kinds of mushrooms that can potentially help fight diseases such as cancer) that they can grow themselves without big pharma and giving them a community to share their advice+experiences is the right thing to do.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Since its Lemmy world its a weird indeed. Mushrooms are not even illegal in like 1/3rd of the world countries and decriminalized/not enforced in the other 3rd. Pretty interesting wiki read actually https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_psilocybin_mushrooms

Any context why it was blocked?

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's been a few poisonings lately, including half a dozen people in Australia about 2 months back that may have contributed... orrrr it might just be US law and broad optics.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure the mushrooms used in thr Australian case were magic mushrooms. That'd be more about mycology rather than magic mushrooms we're talking about. Either way banning doesn't make much sense.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh - they definitely weren't magic mushrooms, but people will definitely overlay the general danger of amateur mycology over the risk and (US) illegality over the magic mushrooms.

[–] MxM111@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Next thing we should block any car community. Cars kill people.

[–] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why can't i follow this on lemmy.world instance?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's real confusing.

They state that they've done this right there, but it seems like there might have been a miscommunication somewhere and doesn't look like anyone ever actually got around to removing the block at a technical level. Both piracy communities are still currently blocked on lemmy.world a year later.

[–] teohhanhui@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the block is intentional: https://lemmy.world/post/18275511

First the Luigi shit, and now this. I guess it's time to migrate to a different instance.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I kinda get it as a policy decision. I don't like it, but I understand the risk and I can empathize.

What really bugs me though is this announcement right here and then it just... didn't happen. It feels kind of dishonest to have a big announcement welcoming them back and then nothing comparative saying that they apparently changed their minds immediately. Feels like there should at least be an edit/addendum to this announcement being like 'psych, fingers crossed!'. Trying to defuse with humor, I do know any statement would invite discontent from the userbase, but I feel like the complete lack of one kind of kills our trust in the admins here even more.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Great news mateys!

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dbzer0 is my home for a reason

Best placr on lemmy <3

[–] antik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

With great admins too. Nothing but respect for @db0 and his team

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is why lemmy is already better than Reddit. Thanks for being transparent and following through.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This was the right move.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is amazing! You love to see it!

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You guys rock. I fucking love lemmy 🐭

[–] 3minutespast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think this is the mark of a decent admin team, the ability to re-evaluate a decision based on new or better data. I'm more inclined to stick with lemmy.world in the future, even through decisions I don't necessarily agree with .

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hey that's great, good job! I'm so unused to any disappointing decision being reversed, this really is an amazing site.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Good Communication is the key for everything

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

These posts reassure me that I chose the right instance. Thank you!

[–] spaxxor@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mildly irritating that I've got to manually block those communities... but it's whatever

[–] kryostar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh no, what a nightmare.

[–] keryxa@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Fuck the pirates.

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

To all the people saying "too late, I already switched": why bother commenting?

[–] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To show what happens if you don't listen to the community before making changes, I'm guessing.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

But they are not incentivized to grow numbers exponentially like shareholder funded companies. They make money from community involvement and value-added services. Instead, they removed these type of contents because they felt like those communities needed to reform their overall community personality. In the end, it is all a community effort to help one another. now that users have switched, there is less legal pressure, and the people who moved have helped make these other servers better. It was a win-win for us. I am grateful to all the people who made the move and participated in posting to their respective communities.

Also, this helps lessen the host cost on them. Lastly, a federated community is not the same as these mega corps.

[–] thrashpipe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Why bother pointing out people commenting? I guess we're all a little confused.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I think it's fine and healthy for the fediverse if people spread out across different servers, it distributes the hosting cost.

I don't see a problem with announcing they "moved and aren't coming back despite the reversal" on this particular thread, it appears relevant.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Too late, already commented. And switched. ;)

[–] Chonk@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have love/hate relationship with piracy. I love doing it but hate when it's done with my products.

[–] KalabiYau@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what are some of your products?

[–] Chonk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing significant till now

[–] KalabiYau@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

okay... such as?