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[โ€“] lenocolomo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, wrong place for engagement, but if one loves something so much, why don't share it? Better than gate keeping. In this comment, at least, he wasn't criticizing or shaming veganism, so I'll defend his (even if morally questionable) standpoint.

[โ€“] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Thanks. I previously worked for Microsoft during a a genocide in which the tech work I did contributed to the Palestinian Genocide. Previously worked. I was fired for speaking out against it. I respect those that are able to be vegan.

However, that being said. The mortality of many vegans that like to grandstand againt someone mentioning "duck fat" does not come from a perspective of the systemic structures that cause the cruelty. They instead see it as an individual moral choice that is apart from the the privilege of the conditions that allow them to be vegan in the first place.

It is, unfortunately, mostly virtue signaling and not based on perspective.

I was fortunate enough to be able to not be at risk for my daughter starving when I spoke out against my companies contribution to genocide. But, I don't judge the individuals that remain working for Microsoft as "the problem". I understand that the structures of power force those, even with the same understanding, to remain silent.

This is not to say that I'm not a hypocrite. That I'm not aware that my privilege lets me talk about how I like to cook fries in duck fat because they taste good. I do know that.

But, we all need to prioritize and understand the awful things that are a part of modern western society. I think that "grandstanding" veganism and making it the core of ones personality comes from a good individual moral compass. But, it shows that that person has anchored to a specific harm in order to ignore others. As we all do. Because, if that person had the perspective to understand larger issues, they would be more understanding.

I don't scream at the college student excited they got a job at Microsoft and yell at them for their support. I understand they are an individual. I don't treat them as the problem.

Vegans that act like this often are the perfect example of someone that views the world and its problems as a result of individual choices. It is often from a perspective of peak individualism. Which, ironically, is the reason for most of the cruelty that comes from our current social and economic structures.