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[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 135 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

Your talking about ai aren’t you…..

Anthropic tried to convince scholars and religious leader Claude had a soul. They told him to get stuffed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/29/us/anthropic-claude-morals-ai.html

https://archive.is/y8FW0

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago

It's about slot machines. Came-on, it's right there on the post.

Now excuse me, I have to try some 10 prompts on that great code generator right there, with some luck I'll get some incredible delta to push into the repository.

[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's a chatbot that can run a few scripts and Google search. Essentially long form Google. It has no more a soul than the dewey decimal system.

[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

Now, don't denigrate the dewey decimal system. It's a beloved institution.

[–] redballooon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

How dare you! Anthropic has it's own search API, Claude doesn't need Google ('s API)

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It has no more soul than a human’s mess of neurons and action potentials.

[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe some mess of neurons and action potentials are a little fancier than yours so that's why you don't get it

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Good point. You think better, therefore you know you’re actually a supernatural ghost driving your body like a mech suit. I defer to your intellect.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe soul has more meaning that "supernatural ghost" and more like, "actual drive and reason and purpose."

If everyone stopped touching AI, it would stop doing anything. It is not even alive.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

If all the microbes in your gut stopped touching you, you would also stop doing anything.

Your actual drive and reason and purpose is driven by chemical reactions in a mass of meat. If you want to refer to your brain then do so, but don't start redefining words to paranormal things just to get people to say that the paranormal stuff is real. Your soul does not exist.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe soul has more meaning that “supernatural ghost” and more like, “actual drive and reason and purpose.”

It does not though.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

What even is a soul, when you get right down to it? Convince me that humans have a soul.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The definition of a soul will entirely depend on your personal religious beliefs. I'm pretty sure in the case of Anthropic trying to convince people that Claude has a soul, they were using the Judeo-Christian version that is the part of you that is you and that will continue on after your death into the afterlife.

Claude certainly does not have that.

[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's safe to say any talk of LLMs having 'souls' is basically smuggling Descartes in through the back door. To be honest I think this of all claims intelligence is substrate-independent.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If someone is torturing them, they are just programs. If they want money from religious people, it has a soul.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think these specific people believe in the machine spirit at all times, at least a lot of them are rationalist cultists

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If it has a soul then wouldn't that mean they have to grant it rights such as no forced labor, PTO, &c...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you been to the US? Or read about it?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately yes I live there, and it sucks and it's so far behind the rest of the developed world, but at least on paper, things with souls have a bare minimum of rights. Even if those aren't always respected, corporations at least need to make it look on paper like they are

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Forced Labor is literally in the constitution, PTO isn't (nor anywhere else).

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Okay then if it's convicted of a crime then it can legally be compelled to work for free? Otherwise, if they're claiming it has a soul, then that means they need to compensate it for its labor and allow it to quit if it chooses.

Note: I'm not saying it has a soul. I'm just saying if they follow their own logic, then that's what would be required.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's not like humans have should either

[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm both angry and disappointed the next global economic meltdown is going to be caused by these clowns giving themselves ELIZA syndrome.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's a deep cut

[–] MolochHorridus@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

I believe the AI’s has souls just like humans do, meaning none. That doesn’t mean I value electronics and programming like I value living organisms.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, you need dumb ass takes to convince dumb asses.

If you believe in a soul, then convincing them a rock has a soul is a compelling argument.