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Link to Zohran quoting fake antisemtism numbers: https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/2104984656831553659

Edit: For those who still don't get it, this is the NYPD police chief appointed by Zohran Mamdani

Or in her own words: https://youtu.be/TxzZcsAH5ak?t=127

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're out here disputing the FACT that half of all recent hate crimes in New York city have been directed at the Jewish community. What does that have to do with how rare they are? You're literally disputing a percentage....not the total number of events. You get how dumb that argument is...right?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm disputing what that "facutal" number is based on, people calling Palestinian flags hate crimes.

Are you unable to read? Watch the video I linked in the previous comment before you respond.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? The video with the NYPD chief? Dude, nothing in that video supports what you're saying. No one is saying that Palestinian flags are a hate crime. That's just stupid. You don't have to like her as a person to be able to listen to what she's saying, and understand what she's talking about. She even says that you can protest whatever you like...even if she doesn't personally agree with you...but if you commit a crime, that's a different story. There is nothing wrong with her saying that. That's literally what you want a police chief to be saying.

And what "factual" number are you talking about? She gives a bunch of percentages at the point you start the video. And again...percentages are not total numbers. An "increase of 80%" can mean a total of 18 events this year, if last year there were only 10. Your argument still seems petty and ridiculous.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You don't think that her saying that anti-genocide protests on campus were vile anti-semitism has anything to do with it?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not exactly what she said, though. She said that there were thousands of anti-genocide protests going on...(which is obviously going to be contributing to the anti-Israel / anti-Jewish atmosphere)...and that there are some of the most vile displays of anti-Semitism happening lately.

But, if I'm not mistaken, this is where she takes the opportunity to distinguish between her responses to "protests" and "actual criminal behavior". Because there is a difference, and she's right to point that out.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Suuuure..... That's what the ADL is known for...

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dude. Obviously, there are issues with their approach to everything. But, being all hyperbolic and just making shit up, doesn't lend any credibility to your arguments against them....just like it doesn't help their position when folks make shit up the other way around.

The only way to have any kind of constructive conversation about these topics, is if we all approach them with some level of seriousness and integrity...calling out bullshit when we see it, while trying not to muddy the waters with our own.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here's someone who did more extensive research proving you wrong. Not sure why you keep batting for Zionists.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol! How does that "prove me wrong"? I don't think you understand what I'm saying to you, let alone what my views on this are. You are just stuck in a mindset where you are reflexively misrepresenting every piece of information you have...just like the guy in your meme did.

Let me ask you something. Did you go to the NYPD hate crimes dashboard YOURSELF, and try to verify what he's claiming? And did you even bother to look up the terms that are being used in that database?

I did. And yes, they're using a vague placeholder category for all kinds of different "crimes". It covers everything from "stalking" to "verbal harrassment" to "vandalism", and a bunch of other categories. The database itself doesn't have a full, comprehensive list of every possible crime that could be committed.

But, as your meme-guy even admits, that doesn't mean those reports are fake. Only that he couldn't verify what they were. But here's the thing. You can't even "verify" the reports that do have a specific charge attached to them. That's not how that database even works. So nothing that guy is saying about that database is even valid. It simply doesn't mean what he's implying it means.

And for the record, I'm NOT "batting for Zionists". That's just more of your own psychological baggage interfering with your perceptions. Which is exactly my point. You are looking for shit to be mad about, and you're twisting the facts to match your expectations.

That's what I have an issue with. Not your beliefs. It's your methodology that's utterly flawed.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

My statistic says you are a Zionist Nazi and now you are banned I'm sure you're happy with it because it's factually true because my statistic says so