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I would posit that while COVID lockdowns were authoritarian in nature on their face - as in the State restricting individual liberties - the context of a pandemic made those behaviors a serious threat to the public good, and the people who instituted those lockdowns were not authoritarians in principle.
We also have speed limits and other traffic laws, also in order to reduce threats to the public good. Would those be considered "authoritarian"? Not a snarky question, just something to ponder on as a comparison.
Speed limits and lockdowns are very different. In theory, a speeding violation only shouldn't warrant jail, but it does often because paying the fine would mean skipping bills or food, which exacerbates the issue, and that's another discussion. COVID lockdown restricted people from checking on vulnerable adults, visiting hospital patients, yet medical faculty and staff hadn't personal protection gear and returned to their families after shifts, hence my noting it was badly managed, not to mention ubi wasn't even considered.
You're absolutely right. "It's more complicated than that" is almost always the right answer, and it is here, too. My analogy was only about whether something is "authoritarian" if it ideally serves the public good. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
The way both lockdowns and traffic laws are implemented in practice is certainly problematic. I'd even say that traffic law implementation is worse, since "if the punishment is a fine, it's only illegal for poor people." There should have been more support for people during lockdowns, but I think that was more stupidity than malice (even if it was still partially malice).
I think we're probably closer in agreement on this than not. I hesitate to redefine words, in a post-truth society:
Radical leftist Democrats Antisemitism Russian bots/trolls/shills White genocide
Eta socialist Bernie Sanders, AOC 2nd ETA liberals, moderates
100% in close agreement. I see you around a lot, I'm pretty sure you see me, too. Sorry if it sounded like I was being argumentative; I totally didn't mean it that way. Just talking and exploring the details of ideas with someone who I think would appreciate that!
It's fine. I don't think it's healthy to agree 100% on all things, always. That means someone is lying someone is abandoning themselves.
You're good people. I will always listen to you, even if - especially when - we disagree.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that, feel you're a good person, too, and will return the favor. Will you do me the favor of calling me out when I fail, with you or others? Because I am human, I will fail.
Absolutely, and I hope you do the same for me. That's what friends do.
Ok it's a deal. ✊