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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If anything it's those few wealthy that are pulling strings. But even they can't agree on things and have their own agenda, so I think even the hidden control is a chaotic mess and not as neat as a conspiracy thinker would like. Going back to the bus analogy, there's not the absence of a driver, but multiple people fighting over the steering. Which is worse?

[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep that makes sense, nobody agreeing on a definitive path with multiple people tugging at the wheel. That tracks. All I know is its going to get messier before it gets better, if that is even possible now.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My take is that it is very much a conspiracy, and not even a particularly well disguised one. It's actually pretty obvious which is why it's stunning that so many people simply refuse to see it. Also, it's a conspiracy of not very smart, but very influential people. The most terrifying option of all is that this isn't humble stupidity, this is highly coordinated and advanced stupidity by morons who think they're geniuses because they've talked the desperate and the delusional into buying their nonsense.

In absolute terms, being the least dysfunctional moron in the room does not make you smart.

"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool." ~William Shakespere, paraphrasing Plato

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 4 days ago

it's stunning that so many people simply refuse to see it.

I think the majority see it, but half pretend they don't, for the illusion of safety.

[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 5 days ago

Yah that makes sense and tracks closely with what I have been observing as well. Appreciate the articulated response. I’d add given the quote you added at the end, that history will most likely be repeating itself whenever this whole debacle collapses in on itself.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

so I think even the hidden control is a chaotic mess and not as neat as a conspiracy thinker would like.

That's my thoughts as well.

A bunch of different people each holding a different puppet string, making moves based on their own agendas and not coordinating their string pulls with the rest.