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Firefox has an ambitious new roadmap, the browser is also losing millions of users a month
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Stop cramming AI into the browser and you might get some people back.
Was on FF for years and then they announced AI so i went to WaterFox and have LibreWolf ready just in case WF starts fucking around.
I hope you know that Waterfox and LibreWolf have their fate tied to Firefox, right?
These aren't hard forks. They consume the engineering efforts of Firefox itself in order to stay relevant. They aren't developing their own solutions to web standards and CVE patches, except in extreme circumstances.
If Mozilla loses funding for their engineering organization, which is the grand majority of their entire budget, Firefox stops keeping up to date with web standards and security patches and rapidly falls behind. Leaving just Chrome as the only option, or Safari, but I know none of us want to choose Safari.
All the soft forks go with it.
Now, if all the soft forks abandoned their own projects in order to pool their efforts together to maintain a single fork in this scenario, then they might make some success in staving off irrelevancy, which, instead of becoming irrelevant in the course of a couple of years, might take half a decade instead. Which does leave enough time to cobble together enough contributors and a large enough project to keep it afloat.
But I highly doubt that all these various forks will pool their engineering efforts into a single project, at least not immediately and at least not willingly.
It's pretty safe to assume they won't.
Mozilla's funding is provided by Google. It's not going to dry up while Google needs to maintain the appearance of a non-monopoly. It's also the reason Mozilla is so careless with their spending.
Why would that be safe to assume? As far as I can see, the US admin wouldn't bat an eye if Google had a monopoly on the internet standards.
Just going off a quick glance here I can see the latest Fox corpos buying Roku. There was the Bytedance merger too.
I'm not trying to argue with you, but you seems to have high hopes, and I would like to have some hope myself if you can explain your reasons to me?
Companies have a long history of funding their competitors to avoid looking like monopolies. Microsoft did it for Apple. And while the Trump administration has been allowing more mergers than ever before, two competitors in a single space collapsing into one would be very unprecedented.
But even in a scenario worse than if Google stops contributing to Mozilla, they'll have three years worth of stored money to draw upon
On the off-chance you have some experience with of, what's your take on Vivaldi, currently?
(edit: super curious, but how recent of an ex-reddirper would one have to be to downvote a simple request for honest input in a place where they don't matter? Asking for a friend.)
not as great as Brave but stilla good browser
That is one of the worst alternatives you could have given, might as well say use Chrome, it's super safe!
Also, what's with the pushing of the football world championship?
I don't care for it.
I also want a browser that lets me browse the web and do what I want. Not what it decides to shill next.
In someone's eyes it might seem a small issue, but they add up.
All the resources spent on designing, implementing and testing this one-off feature that'll be scrapped in a few weeks because it'll outlive its usefullness is an epic waste of time and resources.
What I want is a chrome-style history page with good UX and not the history sidebar and modal from 20+ years ago.
That is a much higher ask. But do it well and it'll serve its purpose for another 20+ years. Not a few weeks.
And it'll actually be reasonably useful to users.
the weird fucken tab-anchored history bullshit is SO ANNOYING.
Give it a bit more time and you'll have plenty of choices.
People are sick of the big tech crappy browsers and there are more and more open source alternatives and more and more FireFox forks that strip the crap and give you just the browser Fennec comes to mind and i bet you can ask here for options and opinions and you'll get a ton of suggestions.
Great suggestion!
I'm a refugee from Reddit back from the API apocalypse days, so I might be suppsed to be an experienced Lemming, but I'm not.
Nor here or on reddit do I know "how" to post. What community, what to say, how to say it. I only know how to hijack others' comments and add in my own shitty take.
I would very much like to up my browser game. I remember trying to get a userchrome that emulates the 2016-era Chrome tabs, but I had little luck. I managed to make something myself by splicing together some github repos I found, but that was a long time ago and that install is long gone.
Oh, and to avoid any ambiguity: I switched completely from Reddit onto here in protest during the apocalypse.