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To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
They already bombed Lebanon today, likely to try and derail it again.
Yup, was just going to comment this. Bombs right on time to try and kill any ongoing negotiations. Israel is not a friend to the US, and trump clearly has no control over the situation. Shit, trump going into this nightmare at netanyahoo's request is so on brand for the moron magats and trump.
The US simply has to restrict weapons and money to Israel. Bush senior did it and froze a 10 billions loan
Iran won the war when they dint bend like venezuela did in the first hours of this nonsensical operation. There is nothing the USA can win out of this confict, they are just losing power everywhere..
they underestimated that iran can FIGHT BACK, and they stockpiled tons of missiles, venezuela was practically defenseless.
israel/trump/benjamin has a vested interest in keeping it going. it keeps netanyahu out of jail, and trump out of the epstein files in the news.
Bibi is already pummeling Beirut
Yeah, does anyone think Iran will stop suffering?
Sadly no. But having just their government to deal with, instead of being squashed starved and slaughtered between the two is a minor improvement.
I’m not even convinced USA and Israel won’t find a way to make them suffer. Both seem to love genocide.
Sorry, is there something wrong with genocide? Fucking antisemites everywhere these days.
All states do ultimately. Unfortunately too many states have far too many cheerleaders.
No, the people of Iran are between a rock and a hard place.
But I think people can maintain a cause in defence of themselves longer than the US can maintain their offensive.
The US just hit critically low oil levels where it’s impossible to continue depleting them. They’ve reached low enough levels using pipelines are threatened by being able to maintain pressure.
The US now has to decide if they want to lose internal oil transport and shut down infrastructure. All right before midterms.
who started and is continue this conflict: USA and israel, just to keep epstein out of the news. iran is no saint, but they arnt the aggressors in this conflict.
Agreed. And innocent Iranians will continue to suffer.
The war is won by either side only when Iran inflicts a permanent defeat on its enemies, or it ceases to be a functional state. Any deal in between, if it even goes through, will only postpone the resumption of the war, as it has been for what, about the last 45 years.
I would guess Iran is holding out to cripple the Israelis. The fact the Zios aren't just taking what they've won and going home until next time is evidence they're jot just evil, they're all fucking insane. Letting this go on once the conquest of Lebanon slows down is so fucking stupid.
I think you can make a lot of legitimate critiques of the Israeli state, but suggesting g they can't be trusted to hold to a treaty? No. That's just totally baseless antisemitism.
Baseless, really? Israel have shown themselves to be a bunch of perfidious schmucks since the inception of their state 70 years ago. They can't be trusted to hold even a ceasefire with Palestine/Lebanon/Iran and have repeatedly attacked during negotiations.
Your cry of antisemitism has worn out at this stage through ridiculous overuse and hyperbole. The only thing Israel has shown lately is that they have no honour or morality.
Tanking any ceasefire is literally in Israel's best interest. Their goal is the elimination of Iran as a regional power. They don't want to help Trump get out of this war, they want him to fully commit to it. American boots on the ground is the best possible outcome for them.
Oh so we should just base our judgement of Israel on the thing they have done literally every single time for their entire existence and 'the protocols of the elders of zion'? But you're not an antisemite? Fucking troll.
This has to be sarcasm of the deepest kind.