It is depressing as hell being stuck in a fossil fuel obsessed world when we have had other viable options for decades, but take heart when you see electric dirt bikes beginning to proliferate in war, if Electric Vehicles are winning on the cutting edge of the frontline for reasons that have nothing to do with environmentalism, the future is far closer than it seems...

Also god damn I really hate loud dirtbikes and ATVs in nature so looking forward to these undercutting fossil fuel powered dirtbikes everywhere....

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They say it charges from wall power in about 4 hours. Wall power in Ukraine is 220VAC, typical maximum current in Europe is 2.5A. So, that's roughly 500W.

500W for 4 hours is 500W for 3600 * 4s or 14400s = 7,200,000J or 7.2MJ. That's a pretty big battery.

With a portable solar cell you'd be lucky to get a sustained 100W, so it would take 20h, or multiple days to charge.

[–] JaumeI@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am in Europe, I use home appliances (like the oven) over 3000W. I'd say our typical maximum (standard) current is 16A, then some special regulations kick in.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It depends on contracted power (maximum power the electricity provider will supply you as per your contract with them)

Were I am (Portugal) the typical contracted power for an appartment building is 3.45kW, so just slightly above those 3000W you mentioned, though you can choose a higher one such as 6.9kW (note that your circuit breaker should be sized for it).

The default and available values for retail customers probably vary from country to country, but given that even a cheap microwave oven uses 700W, an electric kettle about 1000W and an electric heater even more than that, I would say that anything below 1000W is unlikely (and judging by your oven power usage, it's probably more than 3kW in at least most places).

[–] JaumeI@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

I checked and my electricity supply is currently capped at 5.5 kW, but it could be upgraded up to 10 kW if needed before I’d have to move to a business tariff.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Could be that the site I had wasn't accurate. If so, that just means the prospect of charging it using portable solar panels is even more out of reach.

[–] konna@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where did you get 2.5A as typical maximum current? Surely it must be somewhere between 8-16A (sustained). 500w is not enough for basic house appliances…

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

A toaster is 1 kW.