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This group doesn't see Palestinian lives as worth as much as Israeli ones, clearly.
I'm sorry but 21 hostages don't hold a candle to over 50k dead, including women and children and 1.8 million classified as "extremely critical" levels of hunger. There's a famine in Gaza right now, they've been scorch earth bombed to hell resulting in widespread homelessness. Israel just gunned down and murdered 30 innocent people today and injured hundreds more who were there for food from an aid truck simply for crossing a line slightly before 6 AM.
Fuck out of here. Sudan and Haiti are not part of this conversation for a reason and it's because Haiti is in the Caribbean for fucks sake so that's a stretch to "you don't care about hostages". It's a genocide orchestrated by the Israeli government. The hostages are a flimsy excuse at best.
The organization's website says it was founded by Israelis. They carry Israeli flags. It is a pro-israel protest.
The reality of the situation is that those hostages do not fucking matter when Israel's response is to carpet bomb the most densely populated region of the world, starve them, and trap them from ever leaving.
It is incredibly tone deaf to protest for the Israeli hostages. I can guarantee you they do not care about Palestinian lives if this is what their focus is on and they don't mention Palestine.
I promise you it is 100% their genocidal actions I take issue with and not their religion.
The fact that the government perpetuating the war doesn't want the hostages released so as to preserve their justification for war.
That's an extremely weird question, lol.
If it was actually a rally in support of the hostages, then it would be an anti-Israel protest over that government's refusal to accept any deal to secure their release and the active perpetuation of military "rescue" operations that have killed said hostages.
By all accounts, this was a pro-Israel rally.
You presume a lot about who I am and what I think, lol~
It's not me saying that it was a pro-Israel protest. I wasn't there, don't know this group, and I'm reading the same reporting you are.
They were marching in support of Israel dude... Like.... Idk if you hear how braindead you sound. They were marching in support of Israel and to bring the hostages home. That's by definition an Israeli protest.
Not to accuse you of resembling your own sarcastic insult, but that isn't even me you're talking to right now.
No I didn't, I said "By all accounts", specifically referring to the other people whose claims I was referencing.
You are not having this conversation in good faith. You're taking a very closed-minded perspective to someone saying "killing thousands of children is bad" AND "not enough was even done to save the hostages." I've met people like you in real life, and I suspect the pain of admitting that you're even slightly in the wrong about a country you value must really hurt, but it does not make genocide apologia ok. I've accepted my own country sucks, so you can make peace with a place like Israel too.
Also, if "discussion" like this is what this comm tolerates, I sure as hell don't want to be a part of the conversations here.
This is my core issue with a lot of people who label themselves as “pro-Palestine.” Equivalent levels of mass civilian suffering have been happening all over the Muslim world for decades - Yemen, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Sudan - yet hardly anyone seems to pay much attention when it’s Muslims killing other Muslims. But the moment it’s Jews involved, it becomes headline news and sparks protests in the streets. And in this particular case, the protesting had already started while Israelis were still being killed in Israel and the IDF hadn't even stepped into Gaza.
I would be significantly less pissed off if the money that should be used to make our society function, were used here instead of to help perpetuate a genocide. That's the difference with his one. I am directly paying to starve millions of people to death. It's just one more subscription I have. An endless flood of images of human degradation and suffering brought to you by the USA and Israel.
To be honest, I don't care about those 20 hostages. Israel certainly doesn't. They are starving those hostages too, and bombing them. Indiscriminately. Why should I care when they clearly don't. They want to kill more people, fine let them. Let them also face the consequences for those actions like every other middle eastern country. Without Big Brother standing behind them, Israel wouldn't be able to do this shit.
Israel's behavior in this genocide is not new. It's not surprising except with its openness. I'm sure the person who threw the fire is completely unsurprised with how the war has gone.
To be clear, I have no more problems with jews than any other religious freak. But Israelis are vile swine.
Being angry about your tax dollars being used for something you ethically oppose is a fair point - and one I hadn’t considered before.
However, my criticism still stands when it comes to the rest of the world, where anti-Israel and pro-Palestine sentiment is comparatively similar, despite the lack of direct financial involvement.
Yeah because everyone knows that Israel has been oppressing Haiti and Sudan for 80 years... So fucking disingenuous.