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Has anyone encountered someone from a country that has had socialist in the past falling for propaganda.

I have a couple friends who know I'm a ML and its difficult to try to discuss communism around them because of how they fall for the anti red propaganda.

I can discuss the issues with them but they often dismiss everything at themselves being an authority on the subject as I do not live in a post socialist society. I ususally write them off as impossible to enter reasonable discussions with and also I focus mostly on the people within my region to agitate. But occasionally they're a mutual friend or are in the vicinity of the discussion and return to the same old things.

Unnecessary but relevant story:

There was even an incident with a German I met at a party. I talked for a bit about normal stuff and mentioned how hard living was for me in my country because of capitalism and he shut me down not wanting to talk about politics which ofc I respect its a party. But later when I was discussing the feminist progress in socialist countries have accomplished and their impact on our country and culture with a professor I was totally chattin up(she wrote her final thesis on a similar matter), they came over and interrupted the conversation with their own opinions on the matter. Mostly referring to the history in Berlin of which ofc they hands personally experienced. Thankfully this didnt ruin the vibe and us socialists got social lmao.

But Its something I have encountered repeatedly and I'm not sure how to approach it. Especially as someone from a imperial country.

社会主義採用してた国の人とプロパガンダ信じるのがありますか? 少し友達に僕はMLだを知ってます。プロパガンダひっかかるので、辺で共産主義について話は難しです。

あの人とよく話せますけど、よく僕の意見は無視されますよ。あの人にとって、あの人は共産主義について権威振舞いますよ。あの人とちゃんと話無理と思いますて, 同国人とに焦点変わります。しかし、よくあの人辺がいますて、よく僕の話に遮ります。どうしようかな

[Edit: lmao I misclicked or something into the wrong community ty for the replies tho]

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There was no Russification of ethnic minorities in the Soviet Union. A broader soviet identity was propped up alongside a careful consideration for preserving national identity. The Soviets did try to minimize religion, although they still allowed religious freedom, they tried to promote atheism as it is backed by a dialectical materialist understanding of the world as well as modern science. This, however, often backfired as trying to combat religion as a means to help support feudalism often ended up creating bigger backlash, so this was wound back. Either way, the soviets were invited into Afghanistan by the legitimate government.

As for Xinjiang, no, Uyghur peoples are not being murdered by the state. Rather than anecdotes that may not even exist (it's only your word, after all), I recommend Xinjiang: A Report and Resource Compilation. Reality does not stack up to your narrative, nor your hermeneutics of suspicion towards the naming of Xinjiang.

[–] liberatedGuy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again, I see you backtracking when actually contested.

Either way, the soviets were invited into Afghanistan by the legitimate government. No. The people didn't want them. I thought you were against ruling class taking over the people's will. And then they committed massacres. No word on Azerbaijan.

As for Xinjiang, no, Uyghur peoples are not being murdered by the state. Yes, they are. They are on camera, asking Muslims to report on "problematic" self behaviour. They can't even greet each other with salaam. And slowly and gradually the Uyghur language is being wiped out.

I see your language somewhat resembles the Western imperialists and Zionists when China is mentioned.

Xinjiang means 'new land' - a name not used for Dogu Turkestan until the 19th century.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, the Soviets were invited into Afghanistan by the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, the legitimate government at the time, to fight the CIA-backed factions. As for Xinjiang, no, Uyghurs are not being killed nor is Uyghur culture being erased. You can watch videos disproving your claims very easily online.