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In a statement, Access Now says it was “told that diplomats from the People’s Republic of China (PRC) were putting pressure on the Government of Zambia because Taiwanese civil society participants were planning to join us in person.”

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 week ago (8 children)

And with that, China essentially hold Africa hostage and would blackmail them to do whatever China wanted. But of course, they do it without bloodshed so tHeY aRE bETteR tHAn tHe wESt

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Better" can be interpreted in more than one way. They're better at exerting control without violently changing regimes. They're better at establishing their own infrastructure and ingratiating themselves to the locals (or local governments). Now, I don't know that everyone loves them there (I heard many side comments from locals about China) but it's not like they're scrambling for the Americans, British, or French to come back and overtly oppress them again.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

exerting control … violently changing regimes

They don't mix.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago

It's a low bar.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, but it makes it better. To understand how much better, the closest comparison on the Western side would be Cuba.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What America does to Cuba is terrible though.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Better never meant good. It means less bad.

[–] BananaLama@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Wait so is achieving the same result with bloodshed preferable?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know the lives of non-Westerners don't matter to you but a lack of bloodshed kinda makes a world of difference, lol.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes because psychological abusive partner is way better than physically abusive parter.

I'm a non-westerner. Next you gonna tell me woman don't exists on the internet.

[–] platform9469@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More like we're the abusive ex, complaining about the ex's next partner. We raped and pillaged Africa for 500 years. Now China is treating them much better by comparison, and we're shit talking from the sidelines freaking out because we are narcissists who can't stand anyone being happy without us

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

They are supplying them with weapons to kill civilians. China is absolutely garbage just like the US or EU.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Treating better by comparison is NOT the same as treating well.
What is this "sins of our fathers" bullshit you're spouting? It's possible to condemn Western AND Chinese exploitation of Africa.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

You are saying China is equally bad as west when it comes to exploitation of global south and imperialism?

[–] platform9469@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As opposed to the 500 years of rape and pillaging by the European powers? Yes, unironically better. (Unless you're a western chauvinist )

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's about now, not about 20 generations ago.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago

"Now" still involves the ruthless exploitation of the global south by western capital

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

what the OP said was happening barely 2 generations ago and neo colonialism through capital still goes on

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It is still going on in Israel, Africa

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

China is just like the west.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

So anti-imperialism. Much proletariat.