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[–] blah3166@piefed.social 71 points 2 days ago (6 children)

if they want to censor and monitor the internet, its time to start building on a new one that's private and encrypted by default: https://reticulum.network/

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is interesting, I think people should be aware of and check out i2p as well. I actually don't use it (because there's not that much of a community yet 😭) but I run a i2p router to support the network, that bitch does ~15TB a month in bandwidth. I think the main use of the network is torrenting currently.

But with governments and tech companies getting so oppressive hopefully i2p and other similar systems can flourish into the new free net.

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Same, but with Yggdrasil. We need to keep these encrypted layer networks going and spread them through the fediverse to gain popularity. 1000% SCREW Better OR Worse. Mirror your site to all of them!

You can run XMPP on yggdrasil and i2p, torrents, host all manner of things, it's quite impressive.

[–] llmbot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

A huge wave of [people suggesting alternative networks and never actually using them] is approaching!

[–] wallabra@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I agree with the notion, but I'm mildly concerned with the fragmentation of solutions. We already have I2P, Yggdrasil Network, Gemini Network, the cjdns ecosystem, just to name a few. You can just run nodes on all of them at once, but that restricts accessibility to those who have the raw compute (and bandwidth) necessary, which isn't exactly conducive to what I'd consider a truly "open" internet, especially in the third world.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think fragmentation is great. Shows there's varied interest in the space and allows them to evolve. Let the best one stand the test of time!

A quick overview of the difference in the tech stacks:

Network Can run without IP? Can run without ISP? Primary Physical Medium
Reticulum Yes (Identity-based) Yes Radio (LoRa/HF), Serial, Wi-Fi Mesh, Ethernet
Yggdrasil No (Uses crypto IP) Yes Wi-Fi Mesh, Ethernet
cjdns No (Uses crypto IP) Yes Wi-Fi Mesh, Ethernet
I2P No (Overlay) Mostly No Existing Internet (TCP/UDP)
Gemini No (Application) No Existing Internet (TCP)

Isn't reticulum supposed to be really bad as traffic increases?

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/66517643/25348548

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Either that or don't play by their rules. If I refuse this patch and I can't connect to a website because of this check, I'll will just treat that wesite like any other broken website and move on to another one

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I LOVE reticulum, the idea anyway. I2P is a great idea too. I run an I2P node just to contribute.

I started up reticulum on my Linux box, added sideband to my Android, setup an rnode. it was marginal. Text chat worked 90% of the time, I got a single image to come through, then never again. Something about it was either broken, or something I was doing was incompatible, but there weren't enough logs for me to figure it out.

I'm down with the while second internet over encryption, but none of them are straight forward enough I could get anyone outside of my extreme tech circle to consider it.

[–] rangber@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I didn't read the whole doc. How would this prevent kill switch network if the government can just tell internet service providers to shutdown the network?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Well in theory it can communicate over other networks. Like radio

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Reticulum is a backbone mesh. It speaks on all communication interfaces. Bluetooth, Wifi, LoRa, Serial.

Conceptually, if you can see your neighbors wifi, you could mesh. Suburbs could be pretty well connected. I doubt it'll scale past a small suburb, though. If someone has a high tower, you could LoRa line of sight to anywhere. The upside is, if you have a faster connection that LoRa, it can use it. If you just have LoRa, you can chat or maybe send small images or low quality voice chat.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because reticulum don't use providers to reach other like on internet. It is working fine if there are enoug individuals nodes.

Edit : auto completion carnage.

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure what "you nice it is used well enough" is supposed to mean.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My bad, auto completion and not rereading me did that.

Thank you, perfectly legible now. 😊