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Australia faces pivotal moment as traditional economic model starts to fail (www.realestate.com.au)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by kudra@sh.itjust.works to c/degrowth@slrpnk.net

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what bothers me most is that the concept of degrowth isn't even possible to contemplate to these numpties. This economic model is failing, yes, but the article does not actually propose to consider the deeper reasons. "Economic growth" must be pursued at all costs according to these fucking twats... oh? Really? Why? When we have energy constraints, how the fuck can this even be possible, yanno? They don't even consider the reality of energy descent being inevitable, and that we are now staring it in the face.

I'm so tired of not being allowed to talk about this to 99% of people, too.

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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“For the past two years, the playbook has been simple: raise interest rates, slow demand, to bring inflation down. But next week’s CPI lands at a time when inflation is no longer being driven purely by demand.”

This was already argued during Russian invasion of Ukraine after the nordstream was blown up and Europe went on a blitz buying up all the worlds coal and gas supplies forcing massive increases in energy prices, the question was what does raising the interest rate do to help reduce the demand for something that is a staple

“(The CPI data) is a test of whether the current strategy still works or whether Australia is heading into a period in which inflation remains elevated while growth slows anyway.

No it's not, if it's higher because of the oil crisis then it's higher because of the oil crisis and the decision to move towards renewables continues to be confirmed to be the right one, to reduce inflation, to increase growth etc

[–] kudra@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yes, and what we should be seeing is more support for the less wealthy to be able to join the switch, free power for 3 hours in the afternoon is a step in the right direction, but we should be seeing more subsidies for EVs for lower income households, more street level chargers for renters, and solar for rentals.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

we should be seeing build outs of better electrified rail transport and way better electrified freight rail rollout, (and ffs gauge standisaton) etrucks and evans for the last mile, many people then won't need a ecar if they don't want one.

I agree that money to rich folks to buy more ecars is a shitty way of doing it.