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Put some respect on your elders.
Nobody sane wants to live like the Zapatistas.
Speak for yourself, because that sounds fucking awesome, to me.
There are signs and magazines in North Korea declaring it the happiest and most prosperous nation on earth, would you not rather live in the happiest place?
North Korea is an oppressive, totalitarian state, with limited freedoms, so no, I would prefer not to live there, even if everyone there truly was happy, because I believe in freedom.
That is why I oppose liberal ideology, because it enables the wage slavery of the working class for the benefit of the ruling class.
Do you have any actual objections to life under the Zapatistas, or are you just going to continue vagueposting about how it must be bad because you decided it must be?
That's not what their sign says, though. You posted a Zapatistas sign that says it's free and uncorrupt, and the DPRK has the same sign.
The Zapatistas live in isolation surrounded by a bunch of men with guns, it sounds less like freedom and more like constant threat of violence to keep people in line.
The people have armed themselves to protect themselves from people like you. They are more free than you can possibly imagine, and that idea terrifies you.
The People's Stick, I see.
Maybe the post-1950s PR campaign was unnecessary all along.
You do realize that the Zapatistas, before this recent trouble with "Blaming the government (that they don't need) for not controlling the cartels" tightly restricted entry to and interaction with their territory from outsiders, with journalists only allowed to ask questions when accompanied by EZLN guards?
There's a long laundry-list of problems with how the Zapatistas have 'settled in' to their role since the turn of the century.
Oh no, they protect themselves, how terrible. Is this the best you got? The US is executing their own people in the street and has one of the largest imprisoned populations in the world, but anarchists have a border and rules that were collectively decided by the residents to protect people?
They've literally hosted international conferences this year. I literally cannot with you people.
Please disengage, I'm sick of the bad faith bullshit.
You wanna point out to me where that contradicts "holding a conference"?
Yeah, sorry that you haven't been following anything except the endless glazing of Subcommandante Marcos. I understand that PR of the internet age is much more compelling to our generation than the staid 1950s-level PR of former ML states, but I would suggest that you learn to think for yourself nonetheless.
"Bad faith is when I'm contradicted"
Okay.
I'm sorry I don't follow the rules of the Fae, or whichever arcane code you're following?
If you want to disengage, feel free to disengage. No one is forcing you to respond to me. If you want to get the last word in and then say "Disengage" thinking it's a "Now my points can't be responded to :3" card, feel free to go fuck yourself.
It is not a nationwide example of anarchy, so no
that is a really weird bar to have to clear. "well, your anarchy doesn't conform to our borders, so it doesn't count" ???
challenging something that has never worked long term, yeah really weird (a community is a nice example if thats all the proof you think you need). If you think it works, go for it mate. Teach your neighbour how to make bread and trade in seashells but youll have to cross your fingers each day that everyone in your community continues to think like you do.
You're a perfect example of the original meme, just moving the goalposts constantly.
I haven't forgotten the time you refused to accept that a society without homelessness would be good so I have no doubt you're arguing in bad faith at this point.
I hope one day you'll figure things out and join us, but until then, we'll fight for you. Much love and solidarity forever!
Oh yeah lol you're the person posting about ideologies in a shitpost thread.
Also my issue was with how you were wording things, just like the other person you were agruing with, but we were in agreement.
Nah its ok, you can leave me out if it. Cheers.
Yes, the word "good" is so inscrutable and mysterious, whatever could it mean.
The other guy making that argument literally self-identified as a narcissist, by the way.
anarchism rejects nations, so why should its success be judged based on national borders? a successful society is av successful society
You're right, i guess that's why it's been so successful.