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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

70% of US voters want universal healthcare; 90% of Democrats and 50% of Independents.

Only Republican voters disagree, with something like 30% supporting. (all of these numbers are approximations there are many Gallup polls over the years).

I'm not a mathematician, but it appears to my untrained eye that 2/3 of Americans want Universal Healthcare. That's a very solid majority.

Why can't Ds and Rs manage to provide what the US voters want? Allow Republicans or anyone else to "opt out" of the system.

That's a rhetorical question. bOtH pArTiEs aren't interested in what their voters want.

Somehow, Israel can be financed for DECADES without the same level of voter approval.

50% of voters support Israel= billions of dollars every year

70% of voters support universal healthcare= no universal healthcare.

Kinda weird, ain't it?

[–] RosaLuxemburgsGhost@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The US working class would have to mobilize serious strike action across the country to win universal healthcare. The capitalists don’t want their private property (companies, businesses) within the field of healthcare socialized. The working class can do it though. When organized and led by a revolutionary program and leadership, the working class can start to call the shots. All workers need to ditch the capitalist parties (dems and republicans) and support class independent parties and mobilize their power outside of the bourgeois political system.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

There is no united front among the working class in the west. It’s because working class people who earn a middle income have been brainwashed to think they are “middle class” and thus think they are a separate group from the lower income workers. Like there are even white collar office workers who barely scrape by who think they are middle class and better than a plumber for example just because they don’t do manual labor and work at a big name corpo.

The working class is fractured simply by how the media and the politicians have been using the term middle class. The real middle class is the bourgeoisie. The rich and wealthy who aren’t part of the ruling class. If people don’t realize this they will never mobilize against their masters.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The US working class would have to mobilize serious strike action across the country to win universal healthcare.

Best we offer you is a "No Kings" protest/strike for just one day.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The health insurance lobby fights it and also employers don't want it because then people can quit without worrying about losing their health care.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt this. Most employees are low hourly salary, whether at Walmart or a local restaurant: they don’t offer healthcare so universal healthcare is a free benefit they don’t have to pay.

Even for professional jobs, I don’t see how this can be true. I can see how much my employer pays for my healthcare and I’m sure they’d prefer not to pay it, or be able to match more competitive pay packages

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If they can hold your healthcare over you, you will do a lot more to make sure you don't get fired, giving them more power over you. I guess they all assume that is more valuable than what they currently pay for health insurance.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I still don’t see how that makes sense

  • you’re covered again as soon as you get your next job, and prior conditions are covered
  • most employees are not actively receiving healthcare at any given time
  • COBRA exists for those desperate enough, and is retroactive for the rest of us.

When I’m between jobs, I can usually choose not to have healthcare. If something happens I can choose to retroactively be covered by cobra. The day I get another job I’m covered again, even for pre-existing conditions. Sure there are some exceptions that don’t meet these, but I find it hard to believe it happens enough to justify as a way to trap employees.

Over the economy as a whole that would be such a tiny percentage compared the the savings these companies would get from not needing to pay healthcare at all, especially for hourly employees

As counter-examples, I’ve known several people who prefer to work on contract, but have gotten salary jobs temporarily for the sole purpose of health insurance. I’m positive these companies do not like the idea of going through the expense to hire a software engineer, pay software engineer salary, have them immediately maximize their benefits, then leave in 6-12 months when the health emergency is over

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

It’s never been more evident either.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law

Your source is absolutely biased and wrong... we all know that public opinion has ZERO impact, this is madness!

Trump must have bribed these ivory-tower hipsters. I loathe them, with their soul patches and asses sticking out of their jeans and jaunty sideways baseball caps. Revolting

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 7 points 20 hours ago

Profit based health insurance is not only immoral, it's fucking infuriating.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I’m not a mathematician, but it appears to my untrained eye that 2/3 of Americans want Universal Healthcare

What does that look like in implementation?

Medicare For All is generally unpopular among senior citizens. Medicare buy in is more appealing, but does little to curb price gouging in provision of care. State ownership/management of care facilities is easily subjected to scandals that cost political advocate their jobs (the VA being a classic modern example).

So what's the plan?

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Public support fractures if the questions are broken down into more detail. People have unfounded fears of new "death panels", and founded fears of the government screwing up implementation (Canada has crazy wait times for many medical services - it's an outlier among developed countries, but demonstrates the screw-up opportunity). People support new services if they are funded magically, but aren't willing to support tax raises, even though the tax increases would be less than the savings from not paying for private health insurance.

The complexity - and partisan politicians being more than willing to weaponize confusion over details to divide us against each other - is the barrier.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm not an economist, but I bet if we cut the military budget to match that of ANY OTHER developed nation we could manage the healthcare costs.

We don't require 8x the military budget of anywhere else on Earth

Want a compromise? Sure, let's restrict our budget to the combined top competing THREE NATIONS.

(on checking a couple sources, the math even checks out, and we'd STILL have the most powerful military in the world)

It's not that complex. One old-fashioned fireside chat will do it, it's pretty obvious. We have DECADES of universal healthcare data and results, it's not some new, radical, alien thing.

Just provide Americans with real data. Presidents don't HAVE to be babbling idiots, there's another way!