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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 40 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I hate the huge SUVs you see all over the roads, I have a 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV hatchback, and around here the Kia EV9 is really popular.

While not as large as the stupid Ford F-150s, the EV9 is fucking huge.

The bonnet of an EV9 reaches almost up to my Leon's roof:

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/seat-leon-2020-5-door-hatchback-vs-kia-ev9-2023-suv/

It should be illegal to have a car with the headlight at the eye level of a driver of a standard WV Golf type car.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago

WV

Ah, the Wolksvagen.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

I drive a 2001 Toyota MR2. My 7 yo step daughter is taller than the entire car. When I'm next to most vehicles, the top of my car is below their windows.

Even drive thrus I'm usually lower than the window.

I love my little car, it's more capable than people think. I can easily get all the groceries I need, I've picked people up from the airport with their luggage in it. (I have a luggage rack on the back.) But I am concerned about people seeing me and am wary of it.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I recently inherited an older Toyota Sienna and it's made me realize the current crop of 3 row SUVs and gigantic trucks is mostly sold to people who would absolutely love a minivan but just don't know it.

  • I've got more cargo space than any truck I pass on the road made in this century
  • I can fit my entire family plus drag along multiple friends and still have space for everyone's bags
  • I can stand and walk through the interior if desired, even climbing to the far back from the front seat
  • the sliding doors mean you can get in and out of the vehicle from any parking spot without a door in the way
  • it's got a turn radius so short that I can do a full U-turn without reversing on any road or parking lot
  • the high seat+low nose means I can nussle up within inches of a vehicle in front of me and still see the bumper
  • the engine is has enough power to be comparable to some small locomotives.

I would never have bought a minivan on account of the gas milage (~20mpg just ain't great, and filling up the 25 gallon tank every week hurts the pocket book way more than my crossover that I got before I knew snow tires were a thing) but holy crap having this much space for people/stuff is incredible and I thoroughly enjoy playing bus/truck with it for all of my friends and family. For anyone who's considered a truck/3-row SUV to be a requirement, they need to do themselves a favor and try out a minivan

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Trouble is, trucks are considered cool. Vans aren’t.

my work have a Hilux, it’s horrible to drive, it’s like being on a boat.

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The commercials I see for Ram trucks make me cringe so hard I want to escape my skin. The fact that that marketing strategy must work is absolutely bananas to me.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Have you got a link to the one you’re talking about?

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

...minivans are fantastic purpose-designed suburban utility vehicles; crossover SUVs are small-dick-energy rejection of suburban identity...

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Like I said, I got the crossover before I understood what actually gets you safely across unplowed roads and unpaved farm driveways in the winter, but I at least knew just enough that I went for a crossover and not some disgusting oversized SUV or truck like plenty of other folks around me go for.

Now that it's been totaled (cosmetically) by hail damage it's simply not fiscally reasonable to replace it until it's entirely worn out so that's just a past decision that I'm going to have to live with for the next decade or so

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

...oh i'm not giving you a hard time, especially these days when most manufacturers have discontinued cars entirely to offer only crossovers or trucks; i'm just pointing out how stupidly the market evolved over the past three decades, largely in reaction to the success of the minivan...

...what's particularly ironic is that the minivan's whirlwind success was driven by a similar backlash against station wagons, and now modern crossovers have essentially evolved into overwrought bloated wagons...

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh I see what you're saying! Does make me wonder how long until it cycles around again (assuming vehicle opinions do cycle around over time like fashion/design language preferences tend to)

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 15 points 13 hours ago

Bonnet height for private vehicles should be tightly regulated, they are a key contributer to lethality in car accidents yet increasing every year. I could imagine some steep increase in taxes (at least at purchase if nothing else) the further you deviate from a defined reasonable height. People do care about money, make lethal asocial choices more expensive.