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[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I admit that rat poison is definitely unethical: it causes a horrible, painful death, the animal’s gut is perforated and the poor animal gets internal bleeding. But is is one of the best ways to get rid of a rodent invasion.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you know that the rat poison you use causes a horrible death, why not do some research and pick a better formula or a different type of trap?

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Presumably because they aren’t “one of the best ways to get rid of a rodent invasion.”

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Considering that I don't see any reason for this to be the case, I'm not going to presume that without some supporting evidence.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We have as much evidence for it being a horrible death as we have for it being one of the best ways to treat an invasion

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I disagree. The deaths can be directly observed and also allow for post-mortem examination. They are not some sort of hypothetical conjecture.

It would also be patently ridiculous to suggest that poison is effective, but only the ones that cause painful death.

Furthermore, presentation matters. OP presented it as "definitely" being a horrible death with details that would support this. Follow-up comment was straight-up presented as conjecture with nothing to support it. If they aren't confident in their own point, then why should I be?

My point stands. Nice try though.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The deaths can be directly observed and also allow for post-mortem examination.

Have you done this?

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just get a cat and the rats will leave, well most of them.

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Technically you can just get used litter without odor control from someone who has a cat. Cat urine will keep rats away all on its own. Just give them a bag of dollar store litter and put the whole box where you need control. Works for months.

Edit: we have chickens and rats have been an issue with getting into their feed. The chickens don't care about the smell but the rats stay away.

[–] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Except rats with toxoplasmosis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis

"Infection with T. gondii has been shown to alter the behavior of mice and rats in ways thought to increase the rodents' chances of being preyed upon by cats."