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I'm always torn on stuff like this. On the one hand, it's pretty clear that Natalie is against what's happening and making a bit of gallows humor about the situation.
On the other hand, you obviously shouldn't make a comment like that to people who are directly experiencing genocide, it'd be insanely insensitive.
It feels very leftist infighty, but I can totally see being upset by a comment like that from a personal standpoint. Does any of this matter? Is this just the friction of existing in such different circumstances and having a global communication network? Or is there actually something to pull from this?
No Contrapoints is a full on Zionist like most of "breadtube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggztdoPzvew
I'm not quite to the end of the video and I'm actually learning quite a bit I didn't realize as I go along, but I don't know that I can quite see the covert malice he's attributing to her here. It kinda strikes me as though Natalie just doesn't understand all that much about the situation and is shooting for damage control, both at home and abroad. As he points out, that's absolutely worth criticism and plays into Israel's whole strategy, but I don't know if that's quite the same thing as what he's calling her on the surface. Being ignorant and scared to engage with a topic you don't understand is chicken shit and harmful, but I don't know if I'd be so black and white about it.
Still, dude makes some pretty good points and I'm glad you linked me to this because I hadn't really thought about some of the ways he describes the conflict and solutions forward. If anything, I think I'm just realizing how ignorant I am about the entirety of the conflict as well, but especially how things are framed when talking about the conflict (re: his points about how Natalie spoke about the conflict).
What's important to keep into account is the timeframe. In the moment it's glaringly obvious when 6 months into a genocide one of the supposed top lefties holds radio silence besides supporting the administration responsible for it. Now that we're years into it those extra months feel much less of a deal than they really were. Also props for actually engaging with the content.
Geneva Convenience is basically synonymous with constantly attacking anyone even mildly progressive. Essentially they are so far on the other end of the horseshoe they're doing the same work as the far right.
Imagine unironically invoking horseshoe theory in this day and age