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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, being ineffective is the default. Something needs to be somehow exceptional to be effective (or we wouldn't need to do anything at all). It's like medicine; when someone suggests a treatment to a disease we expect them to prove that it works before we debate its usefulness. So in that vein, what kind of effect should we expect the sixth round of No Kings to have?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same as every other round: getting people who are vocally against the situation together in one place so they can connect. The protest isn't the end goal, the protest is a networking opportunity.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay there are three problems with this:

  1. It's not being sold as that; it's being sold as actual resistance against the Trump regime.

  2. There's a fundamental limit on the effectiveness of this, since there's a limited number of people who are vocally against the situation and willing to do something about it. One would expect this limit to be reached by the fifth time, meaning the time is ripe for a change in strategy.

  3. When are we going to see the effects of the last five rounds? For the most part the level of resistance has stayed the same for the last 9 or so months outside of maybe Minneapolis, and the determining factor was ICE presence more than anything else. There's just no evidence that No Kings has really done anything.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

They are effective in hijacking and sheepdogging.
Make sure they can vent and sublimate their anger in a non-threathening way by having their Sunday walks with edgy signs.
And mostly that they do nothing else and wait only a few years when they can finally have their crushing revenge by voting for the next 'leftist' corporate dem.
Surely this time it will be different.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. Says who? Your interpretation of it as such is your own business. And even if it were "sold" as such, that does not diminish the real value of networking.

  2. Says who? Each event is a new opportunity for new people to join, it's a new opportunity for repeat attendees to meet even more of each other.

  3. I personally know several people who have become more involved in various direct action groups as an immediate consequence of going to these rallies. Just because you personally aren't seeing the result doesn't mean it isn't happening.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Says who? Your interpretation of it as such is your own business.

Have you seen how people talk about these protests? Maybe there's a silent majority of people who know they're going to a glorified resistance-themed hangout, but then again maybe there's actually a yeti on Mars and we just haven't seen it yet.

And even if it were "sold" as such, that does not diminish the real value of networking.

Networking only has value if you know it's merely networking; it can never be a substitute for real work.

Each event is a new opportunity for new people to join,

Like I said, there's a fundamental limit on the supply of new people.

it's a new opportunity for repeat attendees to meet even more of each other.

Which they should be able to do in the direct action the first five rounds of No Kings have presumably gotten them started on.

I personally know several people who have become more involved in various direct action groups as an immediate consequence of going to these rallies.

What kind of direct action?

Just because you personally aren't seeing the result doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Sure, but it means there's not enough results.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Networking only has value if you know it's merely networking;

Says who? Plenty of things work without people understanding their true nature.

Like I said, there's a fundamental limit on the supply of new people.

There's zero evidence that we're anywhere even remotely close to that limit. Every one of these had been bigger than the previous one.

there's not enough results.

How about you start your own multi-million person resistance movement and start getting your own results, instead of griping about how No Kings isn't doing things the way you'd personally do them.

You seem so confident in your assessment of how things should be happening, surely you can whip up a proper direct action movement real quick, and then the No Kings participants will see how superior your movement is.

Let me know when the first event will be.