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Sometimes we have those little epiphanies in the shower.. sometimes they come from other places. This is a home for those epiphanies.

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If a nazi walks into a bar and everyone else leaves, it becomes a nazi bar. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 month ago by Icytrees@sh.itjust.works to c/showerthoughts@sh.itjust.works

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I never liked the analogy.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

It's the sharing space and having a dialogue part I'm not sure I can get behind. We've all heard the karl popper quote.

Having a dialogue implies an amicable meeting of minds. I cannot, and will not try to, be amicable with Nazis, and there can be no meeting of minds on my part. There is nothing they can say to persuade me, and any grievance or line of reasoning that led them to that place is invalid purely because it did so. Being a Nazi because of economic anxiety makes economic anxiety less plausible to me, not Nazism more sympathetic.

So at least one party can't engage in a good faith dialogue, which makes it best a lecture.

The civil thing to do is make it clear to whoever's in charge that they boot to Nazi or I leave, get others to leave, dissuade people from coming, and try to get them shut down.

There's a line where either my naked scorn persuades you, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, I don't want you in my community and I'm willing to get uncivilized about it.