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[–] tux0r@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Honestly, GIMP is not a good alternative to Photoshop. I know, "it's free" is enough for many people, but it ... just isn't.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With GIMP 3.0 it's a bit better at least, they've finally added non-destructive editing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaq-Cm1ZkA

Full changelog here:
https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-3.0.html

I'd dare say that unless you've already learnt Photoshop (and have to unlearn it) then Darktable+GIMP works fine for home photo editing.
If you're used to Photoshop and your skills with it is what puts bread on the table... then I completely understand not switching tools.

[–] doxxx@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As somebody who has been trying to decided which of the RAW photo editors to use, I can tell you that Darktable has a steep learning curve over Lightroom. The UI is incredibly dense and the names of sliders don’t make sense unless you’re an image science expert.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll take your word for it, I've never used Lightroom.

Whenever I played around with Darktable it seems finding a tutorial to get the effect I wanted was just a minute of searching away, and there's a ton of beginner tutorials available too.
https://www.darktable.org/2024/12/howto-in-5.0/

But then I was the kid that rtfm the game manual on my way home from the store and love dense UIs as an adult. :)

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Been usin DT for close to a year now. I agree the learning curve is a little steeper than light room but once you get it, everything clicks into place. I can't believe how powerful this program is and it's free. It's unbelievable

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Darktable is a godsend to me for converting film negatives.But I pretty much only use image conversion, RGB curve, then fidget with the exposure and RGB sliders in negadoctor a little more then I'm done. No idea how to do anything else.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah but it should tell you something that they just figured out non-destructive editing by 2025. Love the team, want to see it succeed, but it’s not PS at all.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My understanding is that a lot of tech debt has been removed with the release of 3.0 and I'm hopeful it will make future updates simpler and faster. :)

[–] trunklz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I want to make GIMP work for me but it’s the small things like trying to select a layer and move it with the arrow keys but the arrow keys instead are incessantly switching between layers for some reason? I find the fussiness of layer selection among other stacked layers in your canvas frustrating also.

I wish there was a plugin that made everything work exactly like Photoshop, made all keyboard shortcuts Photoshop user friendly, added content aware fill, etc…if these issues would be fixed then I’d use it more often. (I found and tried to install PhotoGimp for my Gimp install on my Mac but alas it didn’t work…recommendations?)

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

"It didn't work" gives very little to work with, all I can recommend is to follow the instructions:
https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP?tab=readme-ov-file#macos

Not a mac user myself.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rooting for them! I have had it installed for like 15 years lol

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I have had it installed for like 15 years lol

Does never removing it count?

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GIMP didn't "just figure out non-destructive editing by 2025". You're talking as if it was something that the GIMP development team just decided to randomly add recently, after previously ignoring user demands.

The foundation for that functionality (GEGL) has been in development for ages and was also used for some functionality in 2.6 for a long time. The reason why it took this long is that it's a pretty fundamental change to how the app works. Also, that meshed with other upcoming changes at the time. Also, small development team.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have said several times I have gimp and support them. I didn’t think they just discovered it - I’m saying the fact that in 2025 they just implemented it is indicative of why I say they’re behind.

They do good work. Yes they’re a small team. It doesn’t change the fact that the software has limitations.

The question isn’t “are they working hard?” or “are they doing a lot for what they are/their size?” It’s “how does it stack against PS?” And of course they can’t hang with the billion dollar international company with an army of programmers.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I really like what they’re doing and I applaud their efforts, but they are a solid decade behind PS when it comes to feature parity.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

I assume you are right. So then I ask myself, for my own occasional use, would a standalone version of Photoshop from 2015 cover my needs?

Yeah, I think it would!

I was always a much heavier user of Lightroom than Photoshop anyway. I still need to choose between the FOSS options there.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I imagine Gimp users revolting if it ever improves a lot.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have users ever not revolted against change? :P

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

More than a decade on that. I would say the usability is so bad that they are not on track to catch up ever unless something changes. Every year or so I download GIMP and try to use it for something basic, and I always fail and give up.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if it would be feasible to create a different UI on top of the existing GIMP backend.

[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look into PhotoGIMP, afaik it precisely delivers Photoshop-like symbols, maybe even layout, and shortcuts

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they had stopped development? Have t checked them in a decade.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Last release was in mars

Which tech billionaire flew the dev team into space for this? /j

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use krita way more than gimp

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago

Krita is also more of a Paint.NET than a Photoshop replacement.

[–] death@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same with Lightroom sadly. The open source alternatives are either too buggy or have UX designed by very "opinionated" people, making them painful and frustrating to use. I currently want to get rid of Lightroom but can't.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Give Darktable a go. I switched from LR to DT a year ago and im never going back.

[–] Tonuka@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love love love GIMP!!!

But yeah it's not a PS alternative, and tbh that's not really what it's supposed to be or what its developers want out of it. it's different

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is an alternative if you are a casual user.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You could give Photopea a try, if you're looking for a free (as supported) alternatives, it has all core functions and a interface that looks very familiar. No installation required so you can easily test it, and use it in any browser (not sure how well it works without mouse and keyboard or low end devices though).

If you want more than core functionality I don't think there is a (legally) free option out there.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Always with the GIMP hate. You make a better free alternative then.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 1 year ago

It's not on the end user to make a UI that isn't total ass.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago

If all you care about is the price its great but the UI is trash.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

My go-to PS app:

https://www.photopea.com/

All online, same controls, hell, same icons. I'm a little stunned that Adobe hasn't sued them into oblivion.

You can pay to drop the ads, but I'm not really seeing much end user benefit otherwise. Not seeing ads ATM, maybe I blocked 'em.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This meme from the late 90s is still going? It's honestly an impressive record.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The meme that GIMP is in any way comparable to PS? Yeah, I agree.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I mean, "compares as bad" is comparable, right? :p