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Sharkord - an open-source self-hostable Discord alternative with voice, video, and real-time messaging. (sharkord.com)

submitted 4 months ago by recklessengagement@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Came across this on the r/selfhosted community. Still very much in the alpha stages, but it's already got a Docker image you can try out for yourself, or try out the demo server.

Tried it earlier today, couldn't get the voice/video chat to work right away on my self-hosted setup but the real-time chat was very snappy. Looks promising.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Less than a 4 month commit history and one dev. Not impossible maybe, but sure is suspect.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely not impossible for a skilled dev with lots of free time. This is still an Alpha after all.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Building the full stack of a functional real-time voice and video comms system as a lone dev is not a trivial undertaking.

Even if they put 40/wk or more into it, I'd still be impressed. Like I said, not impossible but these people are rare.

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 3 points 4 months ago

WebRTC is a thing. You don't have to build all that from scratch. It's very reasonable to piece together a lot of standard technologies to make this progress much quicker. I haven't looked into this project, so I don't know, but I know it was pretty trivial to setup a WebRTC app 10 years ago, which would appear to be a fully functioning video app.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Completely agree. If this is a skilled Dev who's built products like this before and you can build something like this in your afternoons and weekends in like 6 months without LLM tool assistance.

With basic assistance you can definitely cut that time down to 4 months or less easily.

And if this is a full-time project, you can probably get it out the door in 1 to 2 months with llm assistance. (Not vibe coding, two very different things)

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've built projects of the size in 5-7 months before we had LLM or ML coding tools.

With tabbed completion (Which most devs enjoy), and before full LLM code gen, 4-6 months.

With llm assistance, not vibe coding, it's possible to build projects like this in 1 to 2 months without sacrificing quality or safety. If you are an experienced engineer and have built projects like this before. A lot of these are boring, boilerplate, stuff.

So the time spent doesn't necessarily say that it's vibe coded but if this is an inexperienced engineer then it very well might be and may be full of holes and issues.