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Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

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[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So you're racist against white people.

[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice try. I'm actually a misanthrope. Racism is for stupid people.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

To be fair a LITERAL white man is the biggest threat to America

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm a white man and I agree with them. Am I racist against myself?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cool. This is like how I'm also antisemitic for being a Jew who doesn't support Israel.

Of course, a lot of people (maybe you) don't consider Jews to be white. Elon sure doesn't. So maybe I'm not racist against myself?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean I'm sure you agree that being against the state of Israel or being antizionist doesn't make you antisemitic.

I don't particularly know or care if the jewish people are "white" or not. Not really my place to say anyways I suppose.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I also agree that white men have been responsible for more problems in the U.S. than any other group of people. Like all but one president.

If you don't know who is or is not white, how can you think it is even possible to be racist against white people?

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

how can you think it is even possible to be racist against white people?

Very easy. If you make or agree with sweeping generalizations about a race, you are racist.

That's what racism is.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Traditionally racism that is based on statistics and aggregate numbers still counts. If someone were to say that black people are on average responsible for [insert problem here], even if it were true, that's generally considered racist.

And, that's a bit silly. I can call someone doing racist black caricatures racist against black people without knowing if some particular country's population is generally considered to be black.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

False analogy, no one said anyone was racist against white people for saying they don't support the US.

If you're agreeing with someone who literally maligned a race, you are racist too. Period.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Yes, again, I know you think accepting facts is racist, but I'm not going to lie to myself about factual statements.

Unless you can tell me which group of people is a bigger threat. Feel free to use crime data.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Racism is a systemic issue, you can't be racist against the oppressor.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its not racial, its economic war.

By continuing to promote race based fights you keep the wealthy in power.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pointing out the existence of racism as a system of oppression isn't promoting race based fights and the fact that you think it is is so racist it borders on comedy.

"Hey, black people usually get harsher sentences than white people for the same crimes. We should, you know, stop doing that"

"Hmm, actually, it's the billionaires that are the problem so you should stop trying to pit people against each other based on their race"

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re correct, and if you wanted to be more specific, you can’t participate in systemic racism against the oppressing class. You absolutely can, of course, participate in non-systemic incidents of interpersonal racism, sometimes called “reverse racism.”

But people who have no interest in examining the historical structures of white supremacy will downvote both your comments and mine because nuance isn’t as fun as calling each other racist. 🙃

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Racism is a very specific term meant to point out the existence of a system of oppression. Interpersonal racism exists exclusively as a symptom of systemic racism, since there's no societal system that oppresses white people, there's no racism against white people — of any kind. Reverse racism is racist rhetoric on the level of "all lives matter" meant to deny and trivialize racism. Imagine calling battered women shelters sexist because they don't allow men.