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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (63 children)

And if I were to compare a weeks groceries and bills for the average American, would you have the same costs as them?

Can you travel around without a car? A lot of Americans can't, while living in so called "food deserts". This is an area of high population but little to no cheap nutritious food anywhere. All you can get is overpriced delivery or hop on down to some gas station for a bag of extremely unhealthy fatty snacks and a drink which is 30% sugar.

Imagine thinking that you can live in a first world country while paying as much as living in the developing world.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is something called public transportation. Even savage third world countries have them, as bad as they are, but they work

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

And public transport is considered when talking about food deserts.

That's why I here in Finland definitely don't live in one as there's practically 247 buses going to hypermarkets that are 247. And that transport is made incredibly easily available to me, you can get support for a bus ticket from the government. Which again is why I'm not counted as having a hard time to access supermarkets.

But if there's some ghetto where you first have to walk a kilometre or two to even get on the public transport route, then you have to pay for 5 dollars a way and it only goes there and back every four hours. What is say, a single mother to do in a situation like that? (Here they would be allowed on the bus for free btw, anyone with a children's carriage is.)

I live in a city with literally one of the best public transports in the world. (#1 in BEST study 2024) So I, personally don't live in a food desert. Does that make me think they don't exist? No, because I'm capable of reading and empathy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_deserts_in_the_United_States

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Food desert?

You first worlders invent fancy words for everything. Try living in a real desert for once, you privileged gringo.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have and it's fucking easy, because deserts are nature and in nature you can just pick shit you need. You can't do that in a food desert, because some overly enthusiastic wannabe fascist will boot you down for shoplifting and throw you to jail for some forced labour so the US economy doesn't fall.

I didn't design their economy nor do I live in it. I'm very capable of surviving in the wild where I live. I just don't need to. I would much rather do that. And build my own house. Unfortunately we have something called "building regulations" so I'm not allowed to construct weird stick-tents like you, so you know, I'll actually have to pay a person for the materials.

According to the USDA's most recent report on food access, as of 2017, approximately 39.5 million people - 12.9% of the US population - lived in low-income and low food access

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_deserts_in_the_United_States

And if you're using terms like "privileged gringo" you're probably from the Southside of the US southern border.

Meaning you're likely Mexican (or not, but it's not a bad likelihood). But you don't acknowledge this as an issue?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_deserts_by_country#North_America

As a result, people of low Socio economic status (SES) ultimately spend up to 37% more on their food purchases.[33]

a study on urban food environments, participants described the lack of supermarkets as a "practical impediment to healthful food purchase and a symbol of their neighborhoods' social and economic struggles".[41] Health outcomes edit

There are diet and health implications for those who live in areas where nutritious food is not readily available; some claims, such as linking food deserts with obesity in children, are disputed.[21][22][42]

A summary report by The Colorado Health Foundation concluded that individuals with access to supermarkets tend to have healthier diets and a lower risk of chronic disease such as diabetes.[43] Food deserts are correlated with many poor health outcomes. Other studies find a link between better access to supermarkets and lowered risk of obesity. As well, better access to convenience stores is associated with a higher risk of obesity.[17]

It's not my fault you don't have basic education, ese

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Assuming only Mexicans use the insult gringo is racist af.

But what can we expect from a orsnge skinned uneducated blob from freedom burger eagle shooter land

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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago

You're falling for a common tactic of the people oppressing both you and the poor in America, making them fight against each other instead of the ones actually causing it. If a homeless person makes more than people in your country by begging, them making less or straight up dying does nothing to help your country either.

The rich profiting from both those under hard times in America while at the same time raping your country, those are the ones who deserve your ire.

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