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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Morningstar_bitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 

as this post pointed out, I was an asshole, And I took trolling too far, genocide denial or harming the community was not my intention as I was trying to find reasons to troll hexbear through my two accounts, and was spurred on by members of the community with alternative intentions that didn’t occur to me at the time, such as _cryptagion

as shown here, a message from the /0 matrix:

I do not represent Dbzer0 or AN in anyway possible, and that post doesn’t represent my views at all, it was just a shitty attempt at humour that went too far, you could consider this an apology, you have every right to hate me, but if you all have the space in your hearts to forgive me, it would be much appreciated.

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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

When you want to own the tankies so bad you trip over your own feet and passively deny the murder of 27 million human beings.

I'm not denying it. I'm saying I don't mind authoritarians who helped the nazis getting killed. don't misconstrue my words and make it so passive.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, some ethnically-Polish dirt farmers in western Ukraine were really helping the Nazis when the OUN-B rolled up and engaged in the morally neutral act of killing them and their children.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago

I like how you asked him why he didn't deny the Holocaust and he promptly one-upped you with "actually the victims of the Holocaust had it coming"

It's funny how self-described "anti-authoritarians" are always a nudge away from advocating or excusing literal genocide

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago
[–] Chana@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey anarchist nexus come get your genocidal fascist sympathizer.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, this is deeply shameful. I can't imagine that that community would actually tolerate this kind of rhetoric.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Always remember than at least 50% of Western "anarchists" are just angry and poorly politically educated liberals who read 3 pamphlets and nodded, "yeah". They don't deserve the label of anarchist and are not motivated by empathy for the oppressed, but wield it selectively as a cudgel to bully those who get in the way of their personal self-actualization, which is often just talking shit and spreading rumors about things they have never investigated.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

IMO that's probably true of a lot of westerners who don't claim to be anarchists too. Still, I can't imagine the admins of that instance are OK with "if your have 'authoritarian' leaders then 27 million of you deserve to be killed by nazis". It's such a blatantly genocidal thing to say in service of "trolling" people on the internet.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

2 days later and this genocide apologetic user remains a mod of several communities at their home instance and two db0 communities.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree it was a terrible take. But I think it's pretty well known by now _cryptagion likes to be a bit of a provocateur. And to be honest, you also have a few users on your instance who make similar hyperbolic statements in the other direction. So, no, I'm not planning to demod him over some inflamed rhetoric about events that happened 80+ years ago. I have removed the offending comments though and I'm satisfied he won't poke the bears in their own den again. And perhaps most importantly, he won't be enabling Kittyroll to get herself into trouble again.

Thanks to everyone who was so kind and forgiving to Kittyroll.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

provocateur

Genocide apologist.

And to be honest, you also have a few users on your instance who make similar hyperbolic statements in the other direction.

Which hexbear users are justifying genocide?

So, no, I'm not planning to demod him over some inflamed rhetoric about events that happened 80+ years ago.

Nazis doing genocide.

I have removed the offending comments though and I'm satisfied he won't poke the bears in their own den again.

And perhaps most importantly, he won't be enabling Kittyroll to get herself into trouble again.

Are you confident he won't justify genocide again?

I think tolerating Nazi apologist mods is a bad look for an instance for anarchists. Apparently this is controversial.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

His sentiment was that the russians got their just desserts, since they colluded with the nazis early in the war. I mean to be honest, that doesn't seem like nazi apologia to me. And I know we won't agree on that, but let's agree to disagree.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 0 points 10 months ago

"This guy got caught grooming a young person into posting literal Nazi apologia but we're not going to ban or even de-mod him"

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean I would not be surprised. I'm not assuming they're cool with it but it would not be very different from the "anarchists" irl that have threatened fellow lefties at actions, concocted fake abuse stories, pedaled extreme orientalism against China and wishing for war with them.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not denying it. I'm saying I don't mind authoritarians who helped the nazis getting killed. don't misconstrue my words and make it so passive.

Putting aside your ahistorical view of the M-R pact, these were 27 million people who committed no crime. "They deserved it" is still genocide denial, and is in fact worse than "it didn't happen".

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

"why won't people think of the nazi collaborators?"

go make a post about me again on c/slop so I can be on your minds for a bit.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Something tells me that this hitlerite peace of shit wouldn't extend this smear to British, French, or American war dead. @_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus, if you're reading this, please genuinely examine your position of supporting Nazi genocide. Anti-communism invariably is linked to Nazi ideology, as can be seen in the American red scare, or the treaty of alliance between Japan and the Nazis being called the "anti comintern pact". You are a useful idiot for nazis because you can't get over intra-left grievances from 1917 or whatever you whine about.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago

Something tells me that this hitlerite peace of shit wouldn't extend this smear to British, French, or American war dead.

Lack of object permanence means he can only remember the last non-aggression pacts signed with the Nazis. Since those were signed first they couldn't fit in his memory.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago

Wow three slurs in rapid succession, just before the user's name. Can you maybe ★ those out?

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 0 points 11 months ago

anarchist: "working with nazis is bad" tankie: "is this fascism?"

the only good authoritarian is a dead one.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago

"why won't people think of the nazi collaborators?"

go make a post about me again on c/slop so I can be on your minds for a bit.

I'll pass lol.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@tenchiken@anarchist.nexus

@unruffled@anarchist.nexus

This user is using your matrix to convince your young users (is she a minor?) Into posting genocide denial in order to troll.

Is this appropriate behavior for your instance?

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago

No and I will talk to cryptagion about it.