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oh? Why do you have this flair?
Not sure actually. I must've tagged them a long time ago. Dug through their history and didn't see anything crazy. They were in one particular thread I read that was full of tankies but didn't say anything wild so it might have been a misclick on my end?
I usually don't tag people unless they say some heinous shit but now I'm not sure so I guess I'll remove this one.
It's probably because PugJesus got mad at me for claiming that 'authoritarian' isn't a valid political term and exists primarily to lump together fascist and communist regimes. It's not something I believe(d) particularly strongly, but I've heard it multiple times and it feels right, so I parroted it and ended up on this subreddit.
Oh, yeah maybe. The "authoritarian is a fake word" bit is a tankie favorite, though your point about totalitarian being a better word is pretty spot on. I think I'll use that from now on.
what do you mean? You don't think authoritarianism exists?
Again, this is not something that I feel strongly enough about to go to bat for, but I've watched a couple of videos essays over the years. The argument is essentially that many governments that are called authoritarian have very little in common besides being considered enemies of those in capitalist power. Therefore the government and the media paint them all with the same evil-sounding brush. I think I've heard this argument is more valid for the word 'totalitarian', but I would need to do more research.
But both China and Russia are very much capitalist, though you can exclude China if you think they're 'building up to communism via capitalism'
So if both of these nations are capitalist, how can they be considered enemies of those in capitalist power?
As I've said, I'm not really trying to get into a debate here. I only settled on the phrase "in capitalist power" because "enemies of the West" seemed a little too conspiratorial, but it's closer to the idea I was going for.
ah okay, fair enough dude
I don't think communism and fascism should be lumped together but Bolshevism is definitely a flavor of fascism. Seriously though, plenty of governments/countries called authoritarian aren't either.
So people downvoted you because of a screenshot, of a tag, that had no reason to assigned to you. That's impressive.