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The guy on the right has never seen a worksite or a dirt road. He drives around town to go shop at Whole Foods
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Would imposing a limit on the ratio of useable volume/volume be reasonable ? Or hight off the road?
I don’t want fewer of these beasts, I want them gone. They are absurdly dangerous with no net benefit (offroading? Seriously??)
Maybe an easier one would be mandating that cars should not be allowed to have open-air transport areas, for safety reasons such as transport not sticking out, pedestrian safety, and so on. Since it's possible to stick out with those pickups, that automatically prohibits cars
What also can be added, is abolishing the lease for SUVs altogether, and prohibiting the import and building of those that are taller, longer, wider, and heavier than certain dimensions (say 4 by 1.8 by 1.5 m), even for work.
Mandate that people sell them. Those who bought the SUVs before 1 January 2025, then can get a subsidy of 25% off for the new car, if it's more energy efficient, smaller and lighter, and doesn't have an open rear. Or, they can get 50% off for a bike (electric, transport, or whatever, but no fatbike).
But it’s possible to stick out from any car? I think I am not understanding correctly what you mean
With those pickup trucks, they have a large open back. The open back can be considered part of the car itself. If you put a long plank on there, it can stick out, and that's deadly for other drivers and pedestrians.
With vans, it can only ever be enclosed, and that's safer.
That would ban all pickup trucks but still allow huge SUVs with similar build. I don’t think that would solve much of the problem
Maybe then the tonnage, length/height/width too?
Or alternatively, tax cars according to length/height/width, tonnage, energy efficiency, and % space left unused. Obviously, the car also has to adhere to safety regulations before being allowed on the road.
The smaller the car, the lower the tonnage, the more energy efficient, the better.
For space usage, you could say that it needs to have space for 2-6 passengers, all having seats with enough leg space. The 'storage' space may not take up more than 20% of the car's inner volume, and must be fully covered.
We also need to look at the supply chains and see what would incentivise car companies to support these moves.