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Exactly. These people are exhausting. Like, have they not seen the current popularity figures of the Democrats? Their popularity is in the shitter because they STILL have no platform beyond "we're not Trump." And yet, this thread is still full of centrist muppets blindly parroting, "well, at least they're better than Trump." No shit. And that's why leftists almost universally did vote for Kamala. But then these smug assholes, equipped with a hose running directly from their anus to their nostrils, have the gall to come in here and parrot the same tired rhetoric that caused Kamala to lose in 2024, Hillary to lose in 2016, and would have caused Biden to lose in 2020 if not for Covid.
Just seriously. These dense motherfuckers. When will they realize that being simply better than the Republican isn't enough to actually win elections. It's enough to get the left to reluctantly vote for the candidate, but it won't actually drive out enough ordinary non-politically obsessed people to win an election. People need something to vote FOR. Not something merely to vote AGAINST.
Frankly, at this point, I assume anyone still bitching about leftists not voting for Harris is just a Republican. Non-affiliated and casual voters cost Kamala the election. The leftists almost universally held their nose and voted for Harris. But these Republicans like to foment division on the left, so they try to continually keep the narrative alive that Democrats just need to be a tiny iota better than Republicans, even though that strategy results in a Republican being elected again and again.
Look to the outcomes to understand motives. If following someone's message results in Republicans winning again and again, odds are good that they're simply a Republican.
Wanna know something crazy? You can not like the DNC, but still understand that it was fucking stupid to not vote for Harris (as we have all now seen).
I'm so sick of people equating any kind of push back against this bs as making you a shill for the Democratic party. There's just no room whatsoever for nuance. I'm a bootlicker because I didn't throw my vote away against literal fascism. Ok.
Most of us here that voted for Harris, did it while holding our noses. WE ARE NOT DNC SHILLS, WE'RE SIMPLY NOT IDIOTS.
Many of our fellow lefties here have privilege they don't recognize as having. They have no need for harm minimization because they won't be targeted first. Its a rather first world problem to keep your self perceived purity clean when your not under seige and can just wait for the perfect candidate. Not everyone has a Mamdani on their ballot.
All war is class war. All war is messy. From my interaction with tankies, anarchist, and otherlefty types and flavors; we don't have a real movement or willingness to fight.
it's a big club and we're not in it...the establishment DNC will refuse reality as long as Trump is alive. they still believe, they have to believe, that the political landscape of america "returns to normal" (code for...can go back to peacefully ratfucking government funds, with their good ol' boys in the GOP) when trump finally croaks...when that doesn't materialize is when shit gets real. lotta cope out there riding on that blessed day coming due....
this combination if WallStreet liquidity-parasites, MIC, and AIPAC has ran the USA as a puppet state atleast since the end of WW2, arguably reaches much further back but only after did they start coordinating....they are exceedingly entrenched and have spent the last 70 years building moat after moat built towards the singular purpose of keeping thems in power.
things are going to get even worse... then either much much worse, or alot better, depending on if all these greedy AIPAC motherfuckers see what the NATC party has in store for them vs. what progs have in mind (firing squad or slightly higher taxes...such a hard choice).
Trump really was the perfect spoiler candidate looking back...extensive ties to Epstein (and by extension, all rotten establishment US politicians), dumb as shit with an ego to match...absolutely perfect combination to shine a light on this disfunction we call our government (not to mention making it more clear than ever, how compromised our media-landscape is), on the optimistic outlook that we continue to have elections...trump has single-handedly done more to galvinize the US Left-proper than any other president in living memory