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I've always been curious how fascism takes hold, and how people like Hitler, Stalin. etc rise to power. Do people not see what is happening? Shouldn't hindsight, foresight and common sense kick in at some point? I used t think they were like mob bosses early on - anyone disagreeing with them ends up in a barrel, but surely were civilized and educated by now?

It seems the people don't want to jeopardize their comfortable livelihoods and individual lives so expect the 'powerful elected officials' to do their bidding. After all, the public gave them the power to do just that. Otoh, the politicians don't want to jeopardize their cushy jobs and accumulated power by challenging the majority, so are waiting for the public to start a jan6 situation so they can point and say, 'see, the people are unhappy so we should act'.

It's a shitstorm of no consequences and a man child hacking away at the country and no one seems to be doing anything meaningful. I'm literally watching fascism take place.

History/ psychology/ sociology majors care to chime in?

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[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's simple. Put greedy people in positions of power.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s communism. And capitalism. And every other government system.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you understood the assignment.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So all types of government lead to fascism?

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, humanity leads to fascism without the correct controls in place. It's an unfortunate side effect of our "survival of the fittest" driving our evolution as a species. Since greed usually wins out, it was selected for in our species, and the only thing stopping it is our civility, which is rather new to our species as a whole.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And there’s no government type that has the correct controls in place?

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. There do not exist controls that will not be bypassed through human ingenuity.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what’s the timeframe on turning to fascism? Looking at well over a few hundred years at least at this point.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

History books suggest we're not special in that regard. Around 250 years is the average if I recall correctly. It looks like we're right on schedule...

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen any fascists trying to reduce the governments role in every facet of life. That's a new one.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody that has said they are trying to reduce governments role, has ever actually been attempting to do so (in the long run). That has always been a front to reduce checks and balances which keep fascists from having the freedom to be fascists.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s called a conspiracy theory kids.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's called observation of factual history, fascist.