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Edit: as pointed out in a comment below, the official cause is coding error

Compare with the original, from a few weeks back

Half of section 8, governing Congressional power over the military is removed.

Section 9 had, among other things:

  • Habeas Corpus the right to get a court hearing instead of arbitrary imprisonment
  • a ban on foreign emoluments for the US officials (eg: payments from foreign governments)

Section 10 reserved foreign policy for the federal government instead of the states.

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The tree of Liberty must refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time. I do agree with you. That time is perhaps drawing near.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That time is perhaps drawing near.

That time has passed and y'all still sitting on your asses.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, it's not here just yet. People still aren't ready to risk dying because they are starving and have no hope for tomorrow. As long as the bread and circus are here, there will be no bloody revolution. It takes a very long time to push people that far and we aren't quite there just yet. But you and Korg and start the revolution today if you wish and call all to your banner.

Oh, and one thought to keep in mind as you start that bloody revolution is that historically, revolutionaries make for poor leaders after the revolution. Because they are mostly very unwilling to give up the power the revolution gave them. Best have a solid plan for the transition to peaceful government after the revolution.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

[...] "And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

"But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. [...]

Excerpt from the book They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. Longer excerpt available here.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

No, it’s not here just yet.

Tell that to the people being ICEd.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

checks watch Is it time to start murdering people yet? Because we are definitely going to get a better government by allowing a bunch of edge lords to start killing anything they think is bad.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did plainly state that revolutionaries tend to not be very good at governance if they win. They are very often captivated by the absolute power and refuse to give it up.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are already a murderous society. We would not create a better society by going to war with each other. I shudder to think of the government that would arise if we give in to violence again.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nor will we create a better society if we let tyrants rule either. For most people, the choice is about how you choose to die-- kneeling in front of the pit you just dug or on your feet and fighting for something that might not be much better.

But no matter which you choose, you will probably die.