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[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... I'm curious why you think gang shootings shouldn't count or is a bit disingenuous to include.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's disingenuous because they're not everywhere. They're in a specific subset of high crime areas.

It's a very own problem in its own right, but when including in a statistic used to represent all of America as shooting people up is what makes it a poor and often intentionally misleading statistic as compared to how safe you actually are in the average area

They're also typically more targeted, less random

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and it regularly involves a specific group of people, often times doesn't really even involve every day normal people, as opposed to a mass shooting, where the literal point is killing normal people.

Exactly! We're not having hundreds of random shootings in a given year, a very small subset are those crazy, heinous shootings where someone decides to hurt as many people as possible. Most of the incidents don't make national news because they're something like a drive by or similar.

We should absolutely fix the gang problems, but the solutions there are very different from the solutions for random mass shootings.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

specific group of people

Nice dog whistle.

The virctims in gang violence include innocent bystanders.

We all know exactly what you're really saying here and you'll deny and make excuses about it.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We all know exactly what you're really saying here and you'll deny and make excuses about it.

Just because you read into it wrong doesn't make your bullshit interpretation correct.

Yes, There are innocent bystanders that die. It's a major issue. The only thing I'm trying to say is that it isn't the same issue as widespread violence

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

doesn't really even involve every day normal people

You used those additional qualifiers. You're just back peddling. You're clearly indicating it's not a big deal because it's not people like you who are affected.