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As I have said before, I have been gifted Framework 12 LT (13th Gen. Intel Core), but I hate tablet sized screens. Is there any way to get Framework working on a LT sized Screen?
My last Dell Screen/monitor was 15” Length X 9” Width, that for me is a normal LT sized Screen/monitor.
Is my only option to return & spend extra amount money to upgrade to a bigger screened Framework LT? That case I do not have that sort of money, guess just keep the ridiculous tablet sized screens.

I do not understand why if Framework ships to my location or not matters (to finding a way to have a bigger than tablet sized screen/monitor), but yes, all major shipping companies will deliver to my home.

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I have never done a Pre-release before, when should I expect this to ship?

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I finally got around to installing a left justified, 3D printed palm rest for the touchpad.

My printer isn't big enough so I paid a local service and it came out great. I chose black PLA with a textured look and feel. It took about 10 minutes to swap and install. On first boot, the touchpad didn't work but after taking it apart and trying again, no problems.

If Framework or a third party offered a single piece, aluminum or magnesium part, I would be first in line to buy it but for now, this works really well.

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Please note that this is my experience and my opinion and mine only. Yours might differ and I'm glad about it because it means that this product reached its intended target

TL;DR: The FW16 is a better computer, but the FW13 is a better laptop

Long read:
I've had a FrameWork 16 for over a year and a half now. I've preordered it as soon as I was aware it existed. I lived it as a computer.
It's the most incredible laptop I've ever seen. Want a numpad? Want no numpad? Want a discrete GPU? Want 16 or 96Gb of RAM? Want one, two, four SSDs? Want six modular ports? First party Linux support? They got you covered.
However, I've grown dissatisfied of this laptop pretty quickly despite wanting to love it so much. I love the modular concept, I love the idea of it, but I ended up not using it, at all. I don't want a numpad, I don't need or want several SSDs or a dGPU. And most of all, I find it highly impractical.

It's so massive. I've never had a gaming laptop, only thin an light laptops (for their respective eras). It's too large to comfortably fit in most laptop backpacks, too heavy and pointy to comfortably lug around all day. Even if the modular plates around the keyboard and trackpad are well made and in reality as solid as you would reasonably expect for a touchable surface, slights imperfections can make it uncomfortable when used as a laptop and give a (false) impression of flimsiness. I ended up keeping it docked most of the time, which defeats the purpose of a laptop.

The raw CPU power is very nice, and the large case and multiple fans insure good thermals. But if I need massive raw power at my desk, I have my gaming PC.

The screen is huge and comfortable and super smooth, but as it's docked, it just becomes a larger than average secondary screen.

The 6 expansion ports are great because that's enough to have most ports basically permanently fixed on the laptop, without having to swap depending on use cases. Yet, being docked to a KVM, I have enough external ports already.

The battery is huge, but yet again, you guessed it, docked, no use, still the same pattern.

Therefore I decided that, as great as it is, the Framework 16 was not for me. It doesn't fit my use case.

And that's why I "downgraded" to the Laptop 13. After a few hours playing with it, I much prefer it as a laptop. It's almost half the weight, fits basically anywhere, its rounded edges and unibody top cover are much more comfortable. It feels more... refined. Like a MacBook Pro from 10-15 years ago (before they became shit with their super slim, uncomfortable and unrepairable keyboards). Being their fisrt and most developed platform, most hardware updates hit the 13 before anything else.

Of course, it's much more limited. The 4 expansion slots are nearly not enough for me but I would only need to swap on the go. Thermals are much more constrained and the CPU less powerful (I went with the 7x40u because the AI300 series don't seem Linux-ready yet). The screen is obviously much smaller. It's not nearly as modular. The battery is 20%-ish smaller.

And I don't care. This is the laptop I wanted all along. A slim, lightweight, repairable, upgradeable laptop I can throw in a bag, dock in my "home office", bring along on the couch, in bed, on vacation or on the weekends.

Anyway. Thanks FrameWork for the choice, for the opportunity and the amazing products you're making!

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I'm holding a little framework community meetup on #WHY2025 later today at 17:45 in Schaffenburg Village: https://wiki.why2025.org/Session:Framework/_Laptop/_Meetup

Come by to exchange experiences! There's stickers and lanyards :)

@frameworkcomputer @framework
@tommi

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If framework made a NAS, I'd buy that in a heartbeat to replace my Synology. @frameworkcomputer @framework

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I have a Framework (@framework) 13 laptop and I love it. HOWEVER @SecritLyfe spent a big chunk of $$ on a Framework 16 and it has been a complete disaster. Long story short, it's been OOS since mid-June.

Finally got it back from service today and IT STILL DOESN'T WORK.

I cannot recommend them anymore. Glad mine is OK and hope it never breaks.

Buy a used eBay Dell for 1/8 the cost and just expect to replace it annually. Its a better deal.

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It boots into a special mode to walk you through completing the assembly. The screen updates to reflect your progress and prompt the next step. This requires no tools to complete. Impressive! See linked video.

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This is more of a PSA than anything else. I was warned that the stock Wi-Fi card in the FW13 was problematic with certain routers. Thus far I hadn't had any issues with it, it's worked with every router I've used it on, no issues.

I recently set up starlink for a family member, and while testing it I kept having issues with my framework. I thought the starlink was crapping out, but my phone was fine on the same Wi-Fi. Then I realized that every time it quit working, I could get it to work again by power cycling the Wi-Fi in the framework. It would instantly work again.

It was failing every few minutes it felt like, though I didn't get empirical with it.

For reference, I've got the 7840u, running Bluefin. And the starlink is a V3.

I think I'm still gonna stick with the stock card rather than upgrading right now. I have no need for Wi-Fi 7 right now, and it works everywhere else I need it to work.

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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by mortalic@lemmy.world to c/framework@lemmy.ml
 
 

I know pre launch there were issues with the fan noise. I've just bought a 16 and it hits 71db when playing cyberpunk, and still 70 when playing rimworld. I've reached out to support and they didn't have much to offer, (reset bios to defaults, disassemble and ensure nothing stuck in the fan.)

It's virtually silent at idle and even when gaming on battery it's not very loud. Has anyone figured out a better fan solution?

EDIT: I've discovered the project fw-fanctrl. I made a custom profile that doesn't do much until the cpu hits higher temps then ramps to max much later. Will see how that works. I might post my profile if it works well enough.

EDIT2: It occurred to me, some of you all might be interested in what I did. Here is the step by step I think. I'm on Fedora 42 so you might need to do something more for your OS and I might have missed a step in my notes. I added a profile that doesn't do much until 75C and ramps to 100% at 95C. I just played a game of Beyond all reason and I'm pretty sure it never got to 85C even.

First clone the repo:

git clone https://github.com/TamtamHero/fw-fanctrl.git

cd fw-fanctrl

pip install build --user

sudo ./install.sh

Just a couple checks to see if it's doing what we think:

systemctl status fw-fanctrl

Can leave this running to see any output:

journalctl -u fw-fanctrl -f

Now, find the fw-fanctrl config.json, mine was here in /etc

sudo nano /etc/fw-fanctrl/config.json

Add this section to the json (Be sure you're comma's and brackets match!)

"super-quiet": {
  "fanSpeedUpdateFrequency": 5,
  "movingAverageInterval": 40,
  "speedCurve": [
    { "temp": 0, "speed": 0 },
    { "temp": 55, "speed": 0 },
    { "temp": 65, "speed": 15 },
    { "temp": 75, "speed": 25 },
    { "temp": 85, "speed": 50 },
    { "temp": 95, "speed": 100 }
  ]
}

Then edit the defaultStrategy value to be super-quiet

"defaultStrategy": "super-quiet",

Restart using systemctl:

sudo systemctl restart fw-fanctrl

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If you have a Framework 13 AMD and suffer from graphic artifacts, page faults on Linux (in my case Manjaro), a downgrade of mesa to 24.3.4 might help:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12809

(Building mesa 25.2.0-devel from git containing a potential fix was not possible due to some Git fsck issue in a packed object)

Add mesa to ignore list of package manager to temp. exclude from updates.

#Arch #Manjaro #amdgpu #AMD #framework #frameworklaptop #framework13 #framework13amd @frameworkcomputer @framework

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Vuraniute@thelemmy.club to c/framework@lemmy.ml
 
 

Seriously, what on earth is going on? They're releasing a whole new laptop and have given the FL13 Ryzen AI options but there's nothing new for the FL16. I'm hoping for a 2nd gen dGPU before I would get mine (or even a Zen 5 CPU, but I am OK with a Zen 4 as of now) but it seriously feels like there's no progress on that front. The last thing they made for the FL16 was the Dual M.2 and that was in December. Will there be new parts for the FL16? When? If not, will there be another dGPU laptop offering?

Edit: aged like milk

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So, 10am PT instead of 8am PT. Here's a countdown, hopefully I managed to set it to the correct time: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20250409T10&p0=137&msg=Framework+Laptop+12+Pre-order

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#openSUSE + @framework Laptop? Yes, please! Discover #community-led efforts to enhance compatibility, overcome integration hurdles & deliver seamless UX.🎥 German-language talk includes a hands-on demo! https://media.ccc.de/v/clt25-163-making-opensuse-ready-for-framework-laptops

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Just want to add to the chorus, framework is awesome. This thing is so sleek and fancy.

There were a couple of hiccups with the DIY build. An out of position Wi-Fi wire on the hinge, and I wasn't told to plug it in before turning it on, so I thought I had a dud for a minute or two. But that's no big deal.

It was the deal that got me, I went with a 7840u, with the 2.8k screen. I bought my own ram, and reused a 2230 512gb nvme from when I upgraded my steam deck. That'll hold me over until I decide I need more 🤷‍♂️

It's only been a few days but so far I couldn't be happier!

Gotta stop myself from fidgeting with the bezel magnets, it's fun but I'm gonna break it 😬

Edit: Forgot to mention I'm running Bluefin, based on recommendations here. My first time with Fedora, and immutable/atomic based distros. I'm used to Debian based stuff. So far I haven't run into too much trouble. Though I AM struggling with my virtual machine.

I have three apps that I need Windows for still, there is no replacement. One of them might run in proton, but it's updated regularly, and interfaces with a shared database, and I'm just not willing to be the fly in the ointment if my setup breaks something for everyone.

The other is a Windows store exclusive, and that doesn't work with proton.

And the third I could find an alternative for, I just... It will be a lot of work converting the database over, and I don't want to right now 🤷‍♂️

Anywho the problem is the VM, Boxes, won't run in full resolution. It's locked at a lower resolution. Seems like a crazy problem, a feature that should already be baked in. I've tried SPICE virt-viewer, per some guides, but no dice.

I've got a thread up here about it if anyone has an idea? I know there's at least a few bluefin users here.

Thanks!

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I'm looking into a new laptop and really like what I see from framework. One point I'm concerned about is buying into a repairable system but being wholly reliant on a small relatively new player to continue providing specially modularized parts (e.g. the USB modules). Is this concern valid or is there something I'm overlooking?

Side question: has anyone had luck with PopOS on a framework?

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Thought it was interesting to see them chime in on Mastodon. Apparently the socket standard can't keep up with what hardware is capable of

Maybe we can see an improved socket in the future? Maybe sockets more like a cpu or something?

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Does anyone know where to find one of those plastic keyboard covers for a Framework? My web searches have come up empty.

#framework @frameworkcomputer @framework

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We’ve been hinting that this year is going to be huge, and we’re ready to share why… in two weeks on Feb 25th, at our Framework (2nd Gen) Event! We’re holding this launch event live in San Francisco and streaming to our YouTube channel at 10:30am Pacific that day. You can sign up now to get notified when the stream starts. The last time we held a live launch event was in March 2023, when we unveiled Framework Laptop 16 and two new versions of Framework Laptop 13. It’s been amazing seeing the interest in these products and the incredible ways the community has been using and extending on them. We’ve been heads down working for the last two years on an even bigger set of announcements.

For this event, in addition to bringing in press and partners, we’re opening a pool of invites to the Framework Community to attend the event in person, meet the team, and get hands on with our newest products. If you’re a current Framework fan and are in the San Francisco area (or are able to handle your own travel to us), you can apply to attend in this sign-up form. We expect we’ll see a lot more interest than we have available seats in our venue, so we’ll likely need to downselect from applicants.

We will be opening pre-orders on at least one new item that day, so if you’re in the market for repairable, upgradeable, long-lasting consumer electronics products, you may want to create an account ahead of time to be ready. We’ve scaled up our e-commerce infrastructure massively, but we expect the site will still be under heavy load.

Five years in, we’re confident that we’re on a fast path to achieving our mission to remake consumer electronics. We’re eager to continue supporting and scaling the ecosystems around our current products, and we’re ready to bring this mission and product philosophy to even more of the world, one category at a time. It’s going to be an awesome day, and all of us in the Framework team can’t wait for you to see what we’ve been working on!

For a hint at what we'll be announcing, head to the event page.

I can't make much sense from their hint, but I'm guessing this is related to when Nirav asked the community what category they should branch out to next, after laptops. I'll see if I can find the post again and link it here.

What are your guesses? In any case, this is a very exciting announcement!

Edit: framework community discussion here.

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I'm configuring a Framework 13, and while selecting the ports, I came across a question that I couldn't determine from the pictures, product pages, or configurator:

Is there a dedicated USB-C port for docking and charging? That is, to say, if I don't choose USB-C for at least one of the expansion ports, will I still be able to plug it in to a USB-C dock? If not, how will I charge the laptop? Is there a dedicated charging port?

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