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I did some searching online and I think this is the story:

Man, also identified as a victim, charged in downtown Cincinnati fight

Video that appears to be early in the confrontation shows a white man and a Black man square off, and then back down. But then the white man slaps the Black man, triggering the melee.

It’s not clear whether that man is the one charged in the incident.

Cincinnati City Council member Scotty Johnson, a former Cincinnati Police officer, said earlier this month he had heard from hundreds of constituents wondering about the lack of charges for the man they see as the instigator.

“Only those investigators in the police department can answer that,” he says. “It’s kind of baffling, but that’s where the answers lie: with them.”

Six of the seven people previously charged face felonious assault and aggravated rioting charges. If convicted, each could face up to around 29 years in prison. The seventh person arrested was charged with aggravated robbery and aggravated rioting, WVXU news partner WCPO reports.

Video of the fight circulated widely on social media, prompting comment from VP Vance and Senator Moreno, as well as Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine to send Ohio Highway Patrol to help CPD.

Guilty pleas as downtown Cincinnati brawl trial set to begin

Videos of the fight went viral on social media. A white man was seen being punched by multiple Black people and falling to the ground, where he is then repeatedly kicked. That man, Alex Tchervinski, was also charged with misdemeanor assault but the charge was dismissed when two witnesses failed to show up to his trial.

Victim speaks out after downtown Cincinnati brawl, more than $400K raised to help recovery

Holly was knocked to the ground while attempting to break up the fight.

Its not important to tell where the info came from.

In other words: there’s no point in continuing this conversation. Later 👋

Agreed. The only thing that matters about what anyone says, no matter who it is, is whether the statement is true.

If we discourage anyone from sharing the truth at any time, in any place, then we are only hurting our cause.

Plus being famous is like having a megaphone. Rejecting De Niro’s help here is like bringing a strongly-worded letter to a megaphone fight.

Did you compare this against a reliable source before sharing? If so, could you share a source?

I’m not necessarily disputing these particular factual claims — since I’m ~~on~~ not an expert on this moment in history — but please, please don’t rely uncritically on AI for factual questions.

Edit: a typo

Propaganda 101. They spin it in the beginning:

Some of the workers arrested this month at a Hyundai-LG factory said that although they had entered the United States under murky circumstances, they had always planned to return home.

And then, way further down, they write that there’s no actual evidence that these workers broke any laws:

U.S. and South Korean authorities have not disclosed the visa details for the 317 Koreans who were arrested on Sept. 4. But five of the six engineers The Times interviewed were on six-month B-1 visas, which allow consulting with business associates. One traveled on the 90-day visa-waiver program called the Electronic System for Travel Authorization, or ESTA, which allows travel for business or pleasure. They ​all said they were on business trips since they were being paid by their employers back in South Korea.

It is true that “apology” is an overloaded term that can mean many things, depending on context.

You’ve stripped away the context (and therefore bent the word’s meaning here). The substance of what MAGA wanted was an expression of remorse. They thrive on instilling fear and shame in others. They loath details and nuance.

Lexical gymnastics don’t change the simple fact that Kimmel (1) did not express shame for what he said and instead (2) reiterated useful details and nuance. Both of these things oppose the MAGA movement, and that’s a good thing.

It’s a practice called soft-deletion. The idea is that you flip a “deletion” flag on customer data and record the date of the deletion request. After some time, typically 30 days, a garbage-collection cron job will identify your data as having been “soft-deleted” N days prior, and then permanently wipe your data from their servers. This gives people a chance to restore their data in case they accidentally moved it to the trash or change their mind soon after.

There will always be complainers in any case. It’s a question of degrees and impact: is this particular criticism so widely held that it significantly impacts the project’s financial viability?

It’s impossible to say without hard data. Some sort of survey could be useful. I’m sure there are statistics nerds in the community who would be willing to help collect data 🙂

Exactly. 🙂

Let’s distinguish between the means and the ends. An admin policy is the result of the means by which administrators are selected.

The sticking point for many donors is a question of the means: they are unhappy that a conflict-of-interest exists in the current selection of administrators for a dev-owned instance. This is orthogonal to the subject of administrators’ concrete policies.

Which begs the question: do the devs acknowledge that the COI exists? If so, then is the team willing to incorporate the community’s feedback by closing the COI?

Maybe the team has a compelling reason to hold onto the existing COI (nuance exists); but it cannot be denied that the COI (1) exists and (2) is reducing the devs’ ability to raise community funding. Whether this is a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ thing is a matter of personal judgment. But the facts are what they are.

Side note: if there’s some set of admin policies that the dev team wants to see enacted in .ml, then they could easily select 3rd-party admins that they trust to enforce a policy that aligns with their own values without reproducing the COI that currently exists. Then, if there’s any conflict over those particular policies, that would be an entirely separate discussion.

My read is that they’re recommending that

1. Devs only work on development.
2. A new, separate admin team be found (or formed) to handle administration for any instance that is dev-owned.

I agree with this. The act of administering a dev-operated instance with live accounts + users while working on the dev team presents a conflict of interest which is a deal-breaker for too many donors.

So, rather than simply asking the community for more donations (which is understandable but doesn’t address the root of the problem), it would be best to incorporate the feedback of the community and do away with the conflict of interest. IMO, another way to resolve this COI would be to disable live accounts for anyone who isn’t a developer in the “test” environment.

I’ve seen a defense presented in this thread along the lines of “we should be allowed to admin .ml because it’s a test instance” — but again, due to the fact that there are live accounts for live users (outside of the dev team) in the “test” environment, this is a distinction without a difference.