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I'm in a very car-centric city (Phoenix, AZ) but I use a cargo bike all the time, probably 90% of my local trips. I can't count how many times someone in a car has done something to make my life a little easier, giving me a bit more space for example or waving me through so I don't have to stop. There's lots of bike hater stories out there, but it's almost never been like that for me.

And on the other side, I let people know they have a tail/brake light out, all the time. Once you start noticing it, there's a LOT of them.

Good deal and I totally understand especially nowadays.

Did you end up with something?

And of course I just noticed that I resurrected a dead thread. Oh well, maybe it'll be helpful to someone.

A used Aventon abound would cover most of that. I paid about $2K for mine new a couple years ago, so used should be at least in the ballpark. I have about 3000 miles on mine now.

Top speed about 24mph with current firmware, but you also have to replace the freewheel, the stock one is 14T which isn't small enough, the drift maniac freewheel on Amazon is 11T and direct replacement.

I have panniers plus the front rack, I regularly do the grocery run with it.

Not class 3, but class 2+, it's throttle will go to 20mph but with the freewheel you can pedal faster, I regularly do. With lights and such I tend to average around 19mph.

Plenty of torque for a trailer, I have one that's rated to 100lbs capacity. I've overloaded it to 120 (3 40lb bags of salt) plus groceries in the panniers. I've probably carried 200lbs between the bike and trailer. Not at 24mph tho ;)

Removable battery, with just me at about 200lbs dressed at top speed I get about 30 miles of range, but I don't push it that far.

Standard lower end bike parts, like anything else you'll find in this price range. Shimano Altus derailleur.

Handlebar folds down, but it's a big bike, 20" cargo style. Somewhere around 100lbs with racks and panniers.

I want to repost this but make the title

Paths of 800 unsuspecting bicyclists being pushed until they fall over

A+ for setting, but set needs some work

Yeah, this is backwards. Heat tolerant, take ongoing damage to cold.

All new cars have the same problems. Mediocre interiors for the price, spyware, and rent seeking behavior for stuff like automated highway driving.

100%. It sucks, the prices are insane. Ours was insane. And those issues apply to all new cars, regardless of fuel.

We have a Hyundai Ioniq 6, about 18 months now. It has a touchscreen like all EVs (I know, there's a truck) but it still has a lot of physical buttons, unlike a Tesla which has gone way too far with the screen. We tried the Mustang and liked it, but liked this better, plus my wife wanted a sedan.

Biggest pro is it's not a Tesla. Also, I get home, plug it in, and go inside. Takes five seconds, and five more to unplug it. Plus, it's not a Tesla. Way less time than it takes at the gas station to fill my truck. It's also fast, a lot of fun to drive, and finally, it's not a Tesla.

Con would be road-tripping. If I was doing a ton of that, I'd be perhaps looking for an EREV of some sort, although 20-80% in 20 min isn't exactly horrible. Charger is CCS, but sometime this month Hyundai is sending me an NACS adapter, so no more issues there - we did have one time where we had to wait for CCS when a NACS was open, but not exactly a massive issue. The new models are NACS.

Forgot to mention, in US, range about 300 miles or so, and there was a sensor issue that ended up with a harness replacement that didn't cost me anything under warranty, but had an estimate of $8500.

We were at a protest in the phoenix area this morning, it was about 90°F in the shade. There was an 80 year old man who passed out, fortunately there were plenty of qualified people to help and the fire department was there quickly. Heat is no joke.

Thank you, that's super helpful. It's coming into the right season for where he lives, hopefully he'll be able to make it work.