You might disagree with their opinion of what is "lawful" or "constitutional", but they believed what they were doing was both, and that they were upholding the constitution. However misguided you might think they are in that belief, they are still patriots.
But I fucking hate patriots. They're almost as bad as outright nazis, and in america, I don't see any difference at all. The pledge of allegiance is fascist. The speaker of the house is flanked by fasces. The primacy of the state is obvious: everyone accepts now secret courts (fisa) and "continuity of governance" plans.
I don't need to be governed. I am interested only in liberation for myself and my comrades.
And I am sick of people labeling the J6 patriots as insurrectionists. I guarantee they don't know what propaganda of the deed is. It's a convenient label that liberals have chosen to apply because there is a law about insurrectionists holding office. And upholding such a law is fucking fascist.
i don't answer questions (present thread excepted). i insist someone say plainly what it is they are getting at. and if they refuse that's that. if they persist in asking, i tell them not to be petulant. and if they present an argument, and it's sound, i usually just let that stand. if it's unsound, i let them know.
and, of course, one of the best ways is to never take a strong position yourself that can be sealioned.