dantel

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[–] dantel@programming.dev 51 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Wait a sec, let me check my notes.. because.. ah, yeah, because humanity apparently goes extinct when all males die off. Oh. That's a bummer.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago

Lol, you're funny. Nobody is calling anybody a nazi here. Only people outing themselves.

Let me spell it out for you again: being called a nazi is not some common experience people make. In general, people don't feel like this is some huge problem that needs a broad discussion.

And of course I'm sure as fuck not engaging in your straw man discussions, haha. 'Uhhh, don't call people something they're not, uhhh'. We're not kindergarten children.

It's funny to see you desperately trying to justify why the fuck you are so triggered by this to such an extent.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lol. No it doesn't.

Here is what it literally says:

  1. Post 'fuck nazis'.
  2. Watch for the 'don't call people you disagree with nazis!' comments.
  3. You found the nazis.

Nowhere does it tell you to call out people. The second point tells you to watch for specific kind of comments. That's 100% passive.

You know, exactly those kind of comments you provided.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Haha, you still don't get it.

So let me explain it to you, real slow and simple.

The meme instructs you to post 'fuck nazis' and wait for reactions. There is no engaging besides that one statement. No other context. No discussion. Just this two words.

There is absolutely no reason to react to 'fuck nazis' with some deep philosophical discussion on how it might be problematic to call people nazis.

This might sound wild to you, so believe it or not, but next to nobody on the planet is being called a nazi. That's not an experience the average person makes.

So it's very telling when you actually are triggered. You are forcing a discussion on us nobody asked for.

It's so painfully obvious.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

It's so funny how you're using so many words, going out of your way spreading what you think is some ultra deep next level wisdom - just to somehow justify why it's ok to be triggered by 'fuck nazis'.

Just so you know, a normal person see this, shrugs and is already on their way to the next thing on their mind. You don't have to have a political agenda to not be triggered by this.

You're so simple minded that you don't notice how you're hooked by this primitive mind trick.

And that you want to sound like some intellectual on top of that is just so hilarious.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 28 points 1 month ago (13 children)

There is no 'other part'.

The meme literally is about making this one statement and waiting for people to be offended.

There is no other statement here.

Anything besides this is happening in your head. That's why it's working.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's so funny how good this works.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

So true. Only the bottom of the barrel is all that's left for them. Even far right parties of other EU countries are starting to distance themselves.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think this will ever happen, but it would be effing awesome. We love Canada either way.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean it can be a valid strategy to gain 'market share' in the world. China does this successfully. This is good for big exporting companies and sucks for the population regarding buying imported goods.

Because China basically produces everything, the Chinese can simply buy domestic products to offset the negative effect.

But yeah for a country like the USA, which doesn't produce nearly as much this will just suck. Imported goods will be more expensive (even more so with the genius tariffs) without the option to buy domestic goods because there simply are none.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sorry, you are not making any sense to my little European brain.

You can see how the current US government is doing whatever the fuck they want, right? You can see that for Trump the constitution means absolutely nothing except when it benefits him or his narrative, right? How the POTUS controlling the SCOTUS leads to a situation where there are no consequences for them?

You can see that your interpretation of free speech is being abused constantly and benefits those who have money and spread misinformation and hate, right?

I have no idea what western, civilized countries you are talking about where you apparently are not allowed to protest - you can't possibly think this is a worse situation than what you have in the US.

And mind you there are tons of pro Palestine protests in countries I have on my radar. The only thing that's not allowed is glorifying the attack of the Hamas on Jewish people.

But yes, I am not saying there is no way to abuse this. Given a government which is shitty enough and courts which are not independent, obviously it can be abused.

But in no shape or form is it worse than the free speech interpretation in the US, where defamation, hate and lies are literally constantly spread by those with enough power and reach.

This 100% enabled Trump and the disgrace you call 'political debate' over there - which is nothing but political mudslinging non stop.

So yes, I think the small chance of hate speech exceptions being abused is absolutely worth the upsides.

[–] dantel@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Your freedom ends where the freedom of others begins.

This is pure and obvious defamation and is illegal in many civilized countries. That's how it has to be.

Only in the US people are so obsessed with 'free speech' that they actively protect hate speech.

Without this delusional interpretation of 'free speech', what Trump is doing most of the time wouldn't be acceptable or possible.

Of course it is too late when you already have a fascist, authoritarian government.

But to such a government it doesn't matter anyway. They will do whatever the fuck they want. They will introduce new laws if they feel like it. Putin had no problem to introduce a law which effectively lands you in jail for calling the war in Ukraine a war.

So I don't buy the implication that even hate speech has to be protected as free speech because the government could abuse it. The real world shows us very clearly that such governments do whatever they like, so that's just propaganda and wishful thinking at best.

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