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[–] cult@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

he never published that “testament.” Once he recovered, he began to investigate personally. After he did, Stalin was acquitted.

Lenin never recovered from this... This testament came from the series of strokes that lead to his death

Stalin and Lenin had been working together to bring about the revolution for decades

Also I think you're seriously confused. Zinoviev was part of the Bolsheviks since it split with the Mensheviks in 1903. Same with Kamenev. Stalin joined in 1917. Hell, the first time he even met Lenin was in 1906. And he was in and out of prison until the revolution (he was only out of prison for a total of 2 years between 1908 and 1917) so there's no way he could have possibly been "working together to bring about the revolution for decades"

Furthermore Lenin was (once again) forced into exile in 1907. He wouldn't even return to Russia until April of 1917 (hence the "April Theses")

This is just a matter of basic dates. Like shit you could have simply looked up. Please don't rudely ask me to do my research when you can't even get the very basics right.

Next time you reply I hope you've at least learned to use Google

[–] cult@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago

It's worth noting this was actually a huge step back. After the October Revolution when the Bolsheviks rewrote all the laws they specifically and purposefully left out anti-homosexuality laws. Twice. I don't think it's completely fair to make so many excuses for him when his predecessors were clearly ahead of him on this

[–] cult@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (4 children)

For which part? The bit about Lenin's warning is from Lenin's Testament[0] in the post-script:

Stalin is too coarse and this defect, although quite tolerable in our midst and in dealing among us Communists, becomes intolerable in a Secretary-General. That is why I suggest that the comrades think about a way of removing Stalin from that post and appointing another man in his stead who in all other respects differs from Comrade Stalin in having only one advantage, namely, that of being more tolerant, more loyal, more polite and more considerate to the comrades, less capricious, etc. This circumstance may appear to be a negligible detail. But I think that from the standpoint of safeguards against a split and from the standpoint of what I wrote above about the relationship between Stalin and Trotsky it is not a [minor] detail, but it is a detail which can assume decisive importance.

Also in the testament he said of Stalin

I think that Stalin's haste and his infatuation with pure administration, together with his spite against the notorious "nationalist-socialism" [Stalin critised the minority nations for not being "internationalist" because they did want to unite with Russia], played a fatal role here. In politics spite generally plays the basest of roles.

Also there was 21 members and 10 candidate members of the Central Committee at the time of the Revolution in 1917. You can look up the history of each of the members and see that, for the ones who made it through till Lenin's death, Stalin had them executed in order to consolidate all power. These members include Zinoviev and Kamenev who represented the "left wing" of the party. Trotsky was the only original member that survived but he was banished and never returned to Russia. Stalin would use him as a scapegoat for many years afterwards; using alleged involvement in "Trotskyist groups" as an excuse to imprison or kill other members of the party.

[0] https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/dec/testamnt/index.htm

[–] cult@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (6 children)

Wild to see a community that's supposed to be a fan of Lenin making excuses for Stalin... Lenin's last dying wish was that the party find a way to get rid of Stalin. Stalin literally had all of the original members of the Bolsheviks – everyone that was there during the October Revolution – killed. He pretty much stood against everything Lenin (and obviously his arch-rival Trotsky) stood for