cll7793

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Often times the highest quality sites are some of the least popular.

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks! That's a good idea!

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I'd highly recommend using ZIM to download the websites you want! (https://wiki.openzim.org/wiki/Build_your_ZIM_file)

Once downloaded, you honestly can probably get better results from basic notepad search than google/duckduckgo/bing.

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Super useful plugin! You can also subscribe to lists that block SEO/AI generated websites. Now only if there was a whitelist plugin that places forums higher up

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Someday this will be possible when an open source search engine comes around.

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I noticed some of the best resources from the past are unfindable from any search engine. For example some science youtube channels which offer amazing quality content seem to be unfindable. They are replaced with other channels that try to clickbait their way to the top. The same can be said with websites that SEO as much as they can. The highest quality resources are also often in the least quantity. A form of quantity > quality is favored and amplified and sometimes even censored. (Anna's archive)

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It's quite sad that we are now at a point where we are forced to make our own search engines from scratch. Search engines are hard! Google's original search algorithm (about 2 decades ago) was quite amazing. You were able to give vague search terms and yet still find the answer you wanted. The secret sauce was ranking based on relevance to the search query. I'm not aware of any guides/projects on search engines. I wish there was a good way I could search for this. (The irony!) But a great starting resource is this series on networks from wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_theory)

Some random tips:

  • The main goal of any search engine should be to minimize the number of times a user returns to the ranking page to click on a new link. Big tech should be doing this anyways but they have other goals.
  • The main metadata database needs to topologically connect you to any part of the internet. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory) Think of it as a hub/portal giving you general directions, but doesn't tell you exactly where you should be heading. The ideal solution is to download everything from the internet and query each result for relevance to a search query individually, but this is intractable. Instead you have to group the internet into graphs and sub graphs - STEM, Social, Forums, E-commerce etc. Hyperlinks offer an objective way to calculate connections between websites. For example Lemmy.world <-> Wikipedia.org. The weight of these connections gives you a way to guide a traversal algorithm during search. Semantic analysis of some form allows you to find more efficient ways to draw connections making your search more efficient.
  • The most powerful way to find connection/relevance to a search term is with transformers and their attention mechanism. For example if the search query is "Open source search engine", the attention heatmap would be on groups of websites subjects like Forums, Q&A, Programming, Network Science, etc. There would also be a negative heatmap for topics like Cooking, Sports, Entertainment, etc. From there you want to load up recursively metadata for websites. For example for Lemmy it would be the title of all posts (and maybe their top comments). If it fits, load as much of this as you can into a transformer and calculate the heatmap relative to the search query. Again you are not using the transformer to generate answers. This is a bad idea. Instead you are using it to rank search results in terms of relevance/attention, what the transformer is fundamentally designed for.

As a side note, you are able to tune your model to your own search preferences with little data. You are also able to exchange computation time for search quality! This is amazing. If computation is a concern, traditional traversal algorithms and basic relevance/ranking algorithms work too but at the cost of more engineering.

I hope this sorta helps, if you have any other question feel free to ask! The future of search will likely be self-hosted as conflicts of interest within current search engine providers degrades the quality to the point where they are unusable.

[–] cll7793@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Finding the balance between what to keep to index is hard! The attention mechanism in transformers should be pretty good at ranking results. The idea is to feed into context titles, top answers, etc in bulk along with a search query. The attention heatmap relative to the search gives you a general rank for how good each result is. Ironically enough, this is probably the most powerful indexer, yet no big tech uses it and instead has the model generate answers instead of ranking them. The best part is, this system is tunable and can be adjusted to user preference with little data. The overall goal should be to minimize the number of results a user checks. (This should be what other engines are doing in the first place)

 

Choices have slowly been running out when it comes to effective search engines. It seems inevitable an open source search engine project independent from big tech will be needed.

Some of my own tricks are:

  • Use the blacklist plugin to block sites from search.
  • Search for forum sites and communities instead of specific queries. (Wikipedia has a list of forums that might be useful)
  • For technical questions favor Q&A websites like stack exchange.
  • YouTube videos often offer better information than results from search engines. (Use search engines instead of YT search)
  • Look for blogs and journals that specialize in the topic you're searching for.
  • Use boolean search when possible.
  • Self-host and customize your own metadata search engine. Create a graph network linking websites based on subject/topic. You may not be able to query specific questions but you can discover sites that you otherwise can't in traditonal search. This is a great way to discover hidden gems! (Example: https://internet-map.net/)
  • (Difficult) Self-host and scrape sites across the web in order to create your own query-able database. This would be the most effective way to search the internet and would be completely independent from potential enshittification and censorship. The cost however is quite high both in term of hardware and time. Kiwix offers a way to download websites for offline use. (Ex: Wikipedia, Stack exchange). This is a good starting point to build your own custom search engine.

I would love to hear the tips and tricks you use! I hope this post helps others in more efficiently finding information on the internet!

 

The goal of this post is to provide a hub to discover some powerful internet resources out there.

For example here's one I wanted to share.

  • Open Source Ecology is a project for open source hardware that is significantly cheaper than retail costs. Some of the equipment include open source designs for CNC machines, windmills, tractors, plasma cutters, power supplies, motors, generators, and much more!

https://www.opensourceecology.org/

Additional Resources

 

What free resources do you know on the internet that everyone should use?

Potential Category Ideas

  • FOSS Software
  • Quality of Life
  • Public Services
  • Other List of Lists
  • Personal Finance
  • Github Awesome Repositories
  • Firefox Addons
  • Free Research/Books
  • Piracy Sites & Lists
  • Real Life Resources

Links and Resources

 

It is becoming near impossible to find relevant information from search engines. Duckduckgo, SearXNG, Bing, Google, and so many more mainstream engines have a significantly high noise to signal ratio, and it is getting worse.

Here are a collection of the best search engines I know, please add more to the list.

If no more high quality search engines exist, would it be possible to host your own?

EDIT: Some new discoveries. The addon uBlacklist and filters can block super SEO sites from appearing in search.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by cll7793@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
 

It is becoming near impossible to find relevant information from search engines. Duckduckgo, SearXNG, Bing, Google, and so many more mainstream engines have a significantly high noise to signal ratio, and it is getting worse.

Here are a collection of the best search engines I know, please add more to the list.

If no more high quality search engines exist, would it be possible to host your own?

EDIT: Some new discoveries. The addon uBlacklist and filters can block super SEO sites from appearing in search.

 

What concepts or facts do you know from math that is mind blowing, awesome, or simply fascinating?

Here are some I would like to share:

  • Gödel's incompleteness theorems: There are some problems in math so difficult that it can never be solved no matter how much time you put into it.
  • Halting problem: It is impossible to write a program that can figure out whether or not any input program loops forever or finishes running. (Undecidablity)

The Busy Beaver function

Now this is the mind blowing one. What is the largest non-infinite number you know? Graham's Number? TREE(3)? TREE(TREE(3))? This one will beat it easily.

  • The Busy Beaver function produces the fastest growing number that is theoretically possible. These numbers are so large we don't even know if you can compute the function to get the value even with an infinitely powerful PC.
  • In fact, just the mere act of being able to compute the value would mean solving the hardest problems in mathematics.
  • Σ(1) = 1
  • Σ(4) = 13
  • Σ(6) > 10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10 (10s are stacked on each other)
  • Σ(17) > Graham's Number
  • Σ(27) If you can compute this function the Goldbach conjecture is false.
  • Σ(744) If you can compute this function the Riemann hypothesis is false.

Sources:

 

As an alternative if you have suggestions for documentary sources please do share them.

Mine would be United States of Secrets by PBS Frontline.

LEMMiNO is also great! One of the best documentary makers ever!

 

As an alternative if you know any good list of RSS feeds please do share them!